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Started by tgirljuliewilson, October 12, 2008, 03:01:35 AM

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tgirljuliewilson

I've just watched the "Lord of the Rings" series again, and was wondering....

This time, the scenes of Arwen, and then of Eowyn, evoke such emotional responses....

When Eowyn slays the witch king, declaring "I am no man..!", it stirs such an emotional response in me!

And, as a brunette, Arwen's scenes stir an amazing amount of emotion...her joyous laugh at the end, in the arms of Aragorn, sends me to such tears of joy for her!

Am I nuts?  Or is this one of the natural parts of womanhood I didn't prepare for?

Can an image on a screen really invoke such an emotional response?
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Jamie-o

I can tell you that a lot of trans guys have the opposite experience.  They used to cry at movies and tear up whenever they felt really strongly about things, but once they start taking testosterone they find that they can't even cry when they want to.  Personally, I'm pre-T, and I cry at movies all the time.  I cried at Toy Story II when the cowgirl told her sad tale of her little girl growing out of playing with toys.   :icon_redface:  I think it's one of the joys of Estrogen.  ;)
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cindybc

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Yes definitely the estrogen after a time will rewire the neural pathways in your brain. Get ready for the ride Honey. But these emotional sensitivities will all level off after a few months and you will not cry as frequently. Still you will find that when you feel emotions, these emotions will go to a much deeper level then you have ever known before. You will also find that your emotions become more widely varied in reason and intensity then they ever have before.

It was like some kind of trip the first time my emotion reached that depth of varying intensities. It is such a wonderful relief to be able to  show emotions where before it would have been unheard of to exhibit emotion before strangers. Now, well if you are living full time as female, you are able to show emotion when ever you feel a desire to do so with another supportive person or persons, no matter where. With anyone you know who will receive you with kindness and compassion. sensitivity to what ever is in your heart and mind.

**Removed some unnecessary info.**

Cindy   
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Kimberly

Quote from: tgirljuliewilson on October 12, 2008, 03:01:35 AM
Can an image on a screen really invoke such an emotional response?
Certainly. Heck, all it can take is a single word/name or a lovely scene. Mind you, I don't think it is always just emotion for emotion's sake, but rather an emotional response to stimuli. I tend to blame it mostly on there simply being a lot lurking in my mind. Perhaps things are similar with you.
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Renate

Quote from: cindybc on October 12, 2008, 04:54:07 AM
... these emotional sensitivities will all level off after a few months and you will not cry as frequently.
Nah, not more than once a day or so!

I always used to cry at movies, now after HRT, I cry at the drop of a hat.

I was in the library finishing a "chick-lit" book that I was reading and the tears were streaming.

Welcome to the wonderful world of womanhood!
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Stealthgrrl

LOL, yes, movies, books, anything like that can create a strong emotional reaction. I love having a full range of emotions rather than, as Jenny Boylan put it, "one damn mood all the damn time."

And, too, characters in books and movies can reflect back to us a self we recognize. Seeing "The Crying Game" with the character Dil was a major turning point for me. I thought, that's me! Up intil then, I had thought, sure, I'd love to be female rather than male, but it's impossible; I have no wish to be a man in a dress, to be ridiculous. Then I saw Dil in that movie and began to think, wait a minute, maybe .... :)

Anyways, I cry at movies all the time--including that very scene in Toy Story II--and I love it.

Stealth

PS--I was watching a movie about General Custer, called "Son Of The Morning Star", and in one scene he angrily tells his Indian scouts that if any of them will not move forward, he will take that man's weapons and make a woman of him. I about fell off the couch laughing and said "Yayyyyyy, how soon can we start?"  :laugh:
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CC

I am pre-HRT and have always cried at movies, theater, concerts, sights or anytime there is a beautiful touching experience. The drag was that I had to hide it and never really let it go and enjoy it for what it could give me.

So I can't wait to be able to feel and express all my emotions without ridicule.
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joannatsf

I'm pretty emotionally regulated and analytical in my daily life but put me in a movie theater, concert hall or sitting with a novel and I well up frequently.  Actual streaming tears come too if I'm sufficiently moved.  My daughter used to tease me but I don't care.  I love the release!
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Yochanan

I cry at movies, books, TV, real life, anything. I've been a crybaby my entire life. I hate it. I don't want to break down and weep like a child when something evokes an emotional response. I want to be in control of my emotions and cry when I want to. Stupid hormones.
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IHPUN

It might not just be a part of womanhood.  As a previous reply by a trans guy suggested, it might have more to do with testosterone or lack thereof.  I also read this article by a man who had androgen deprivation therapy as part of prostate cancer treatment, which gives more of a non-transgender perspective on this (search for the word "weep" if you don't want to read the whole thing):

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/03/27/health/27case.html?_r=1&ref=health&oref=slogin

Anyway, I wonder if my testosterone levels have dropped recently for some reason.  I've noticed over the past few months that I cry much more when I see sad things on TV; I don't think these things would have made me cry previously.  It seems to me that it's mainly a matter of empathy.  I can see advantages and disadvantages to this, but I think I like it better.

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cindybc

Music is an other excellent lubricant for the tears, or reminiscing about pleasant memories. I would never have guessed there was such a rich reservoir of beautiful heart felt moments, pleasant, happy ones and  fantasised romantic ones as well. Music gets it to well up to the surface. And of course movies. and it doesn't have to be something dramatically big either, just something that triggers a memory of having experienced something emotionally similar. What I mean about the leveling off is where you find yourself less just sitting and crying uncontrollably on and off for no apparent reason. Ever cry and laugh at the same time, now I think that can be a piece of work, not unlike wetting your panties while laughing your butt off. I remember my sister doing that and it would make me laugh watching her hurry off to the bathroom her face all flushed in a nice shade of red, I loved making her laugh. Oh my, now it's my love has piked up the knack do affect me the very same way with some silly off the wall slap stick humor.

If there ain't anything else I love then a good soul cleansing cry i is laughter. I like laughing and I love making others laugh as well.

Cindy   
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Nero

The only time I cry at movies is when they have happy endings. Then I cry cause I can't get my money back.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Nicky

I tear up watching movies and my wife never does. I don't know how much of the tearless thing in men is down to social inhibition or biological reason.

Personaly I like the emotional flatness, it can be really useful, feeling like a machine. If you can switch it on or off as required or drip feed it through, even better.
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almost,angie

 I`m full of E and still can`t cry. May be I just never will. WHen I feel like I need to nothing comes out. I think it`s all about who you are and not whats in you. I will Aways have the emotions of a rock. >:-)
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Pica Pica

I often cry at films, and music and books.

(Remember the book of captain corelli's mandolin - didn't stop sobbing for about half an hour, thinking, you stupid man, you could have been so happy, why didn't you just talk to her?)

Though I fall asleep at lord of the rings.
'For the circle may be squared with rising and swelling.' Kit Smart
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cindybc

Hi Angie hon, I just caught site of this post just as I was leaving. #1 I want to ask you how long have you been on hormones?
#2 have had any other symptoms of changes yet from HRT exotically the breast area?

OK, good luck and I will check back when I get back from work later this evening.

Cindy
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joannatsf

QuoteEver cry and laugh at the same time, now I think that can be a piece of work, not unlike wetting your panties while laughing your butt off.

Photo Beauty gets attention
Then her eye paint's running down
She's got a rose in her teeth
And a lampshade crown
One minute she's so happy
Then she's crying on someone's knee
Saying laughing and crying
You know it's the same release - Joni Mitchell

I've cried at movies all my life whether male or female.  I think it has more to do with empathy than hormones.
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Chaunte

Even before I started on estradiol, I would get emotional at movies.  Now, its so easy to get choked up!  I even cry with animated flicks!  Part of it is the chemistry.  Part of it is allowing myself to feel.

Chaunte
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almost,angie

Quote from: cindybc on October 12, 2008, 05:27:49 PM
Hi Angie hon, I just caught site of this post just as I was leaving. #1 I want to ask you how long have you been on hormones?
#2 have had any other symptoms of changes yet from HRT exotically the breast area?

OK, good luck and I will check back when I get back from work later this evening.

Cindy
Ive been on hormones for 11 months. I do have some breast development ,  and a slightly rounder face and it is much much harder for me to keep waight off. My Dr. sais it just takes longer for some to feminize than others.
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tekla

Can an image on a screen really invoke such an emotional response?


Of course it can.  They are designed, engineered, and created (by people who makes LOTS of money) to do exactly that.  And when it works out right, it is art.

I can cry (or at least tear up) for any of the following, at almost any time.
- Bogart's speech to Bergman in Casablanca, when he says "We'll always have Paris..."  Timeless
- Carlos Santana playing Samba Pa Ti, or Jerry playing and singing Stella Blue
- The end of It's a Wonderful Life
- Standing in front of The Sleeping Gypsy by Henri Rousseau at the The Art Institute of Chicago Museum.

Or try any of these: Terms of Endearment, Beaches, Night and Fog, Schindler's List, E.T.,

So yeah, they invoke emotions, they are supposed to.  There are several scenes in LotR that do it for me, the one you noted when she says "I am no man" or the incredible love story between Samwise and Frodo, which is the heart of the book, and the best part of the adaptation.  You feel it, because these people are good, and they are all doing good work, and that's what they do.

Emotion is the name of the game, in rock music, and perhaps in all music - listen to Dylan sing The Lonesome Ballad of Hattie Carrol, or Beethoven's Ninth - the sound, fury its so uplifting its almost a drug.  Movies (and remember laughter is just as emotional as tearing up), greeting cards, commercials, especially holiday commercials, have as their stock and trade emotional manipulation (hopefully in a good way - though watch Leni Riefenstahl's Triumph of the Will for the bad way). 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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