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Started by Shana A, November 13, 2008, 01:29:17 PM

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Shana A

She wants to be a lizard.
Filed by: Father Tony
November 13, 2008 1:30 PM

http://www.bilerico.com/2008/11/she_wants_to_be_a_lizard.php

    Dear Father Tony,

    It's pretty clear that the LGBT community is angry at organized religion and quite justifiably so, especially in light of recent events. But there are plenty who desire to be received into a loving congregation. More and more churches are recognizing the need to be intentionally welcoming and inclusive.

    Let's say you've been given access to the senior pastor of a large metropolitan church whose membership is, for the most part, white, educated and conservative. What gay members may be present are well-closeted. The pastor wants very much to have his church to be open and affirming, and he is willing to guide his congregation in the process.

   4. I know it may seem overly political, but if it was me doing what you are doing, I'd want that initial core group to look and act as mainstream/conservative as possible. I'd be approaching the men in the grey flannel suits and the ladies in beige. I'd save the drag queens dripping in rhinestones and staggering under 30 pounds of sprayed blonde bouffant for later. I know this will get me in some trouble with the people who didn't like dropping the "t" from LGBT proposals, but it's the practical me speaking here. I know what it takes to make even the smallest of changes in a church. It's a delicate business. If you are not willing to make these kinds of compromises, don't waste your time and the time of your pastor. In other words, don't wheel a statue of Richard Simmons into the sanctuary (although there are probably a good number of blue-haired ladies in the front pew who'd love that.)
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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NicholeW.

Perpetuating stereotypes is an American pasttime. Is it nasty, unfair and is the caricature more times false than not? Yes.

Besides, he basically invited you to shoot back at 'im for making it. Have at 'im, girl! ")

Nichole 
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Dennis

It was an excellent comment, Tasha.

Dennis
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Kaweah

Fr. Tony's article is difficult.  On one hand, when trying to lead a deeply conservative audience to change, a conservative message works best.  His advice was to be as conservative as possible, trying to minimize the change (a.k.a. Threat) that the audience has to accept.

But Tasha Elizabeth's comments are correct.  Its not right for us to be left out.  And Fr. Tony seemed to dismiss our community with an air of flippancy.

I dunno.  I don't think Fr. Tony's intention was to exclude trans folk from church. I think his concern is that the social politics of this conservative church are very sensitive and could easily go awry.   He wanted to stress that the change needs to be imperceptible at first.   To use his words: "I'd want that initial core group to look and act as mainstream/conservative as possible."

And to bring up that lamentable drag queen example, he did say that they should be saved "for later."

Dang.  Fr. Tony is a very bright, very perceptive guy.  His advice is often amazingly good.  And as Tasha Elizabeth mentioned, this current article had very fine advice.  It was that one drag queen remark which marred it.
 
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Nero

yeah, he just needs to tone down the transphobia a bit.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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