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Started by gina, November 10, 2008, 10:16:36 AM

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gina

Hi everyone been a while since I posted but this has been on my mind for a while.

It really gets me how I'm suppose to be so understanding, loving and carring to my ex, family and child no matter what health issues they may have physical or mentally and love them no matter what the issue is (and I do) but dont receive it in return for them to accept my issues and strugle with a condition I was born with and trying to correct and live a life with some happiness, but yet I'm the cruel one. I think alot of you know what I'm talking about here the people in our life that are lacking that understanding and deeper (soul) love that most of us with trasgender issues have for others.

Maybe the answer to my questions is simple, but I dont see it as I been beat down so much mentaly through the years maybe it just  lost in the confusion.

My questions are:

Why are most of us so understanding of others issues and battles with life and that deeper love that shines thru ?

What causes this, is this a gift in a way, but yet it works against us as it hurts us so in many ways at times.

gina
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Nicky

I've wondered the same thing. Lately I have been thinking that perhaps I don't get much support because I don't actually reveal how much pain I am in, I hide it so well that even when I tell someone it does not seem to them to be true. Out of site, out of mind. I hold my cards too close.

I think too a lot of what we feel is alien to others, they just can't comprehend what it would be like. Perhaps this puts a damper on getting empathy from our loved ones. Maybe we need to communicate better the emotion around it - the fear, the envy, the hate, the sadness, lonelyness etc...

I don't think the answer is simple.



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MadJackal

Not truly understanding what it's like to be you or like you I think that the thing is that they are losing someone. The daughter or son, son or daughter and so on that they loved is gone and they must meet you as you are and are now. And that's hard and scary. But they should love whatever part of us (heart or soul that makes us people or uniquely an individual) But it's hard. Think about all the memories of you they have and are hence forth to be of a person they won't see again. It's hard for everyone I think.
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alyssa

i'm not out yet but i have pretty good idea about what will happen when i do. but they have every right to be hurt,angry and all the other crap that goes with it. you're right nicky, they can't comprehend what it's like for one's soul to be traped in a body that's totally wrong. how could they know? in fact they fell we are making a chose to be this way. if some how we could just help them understand the choise we have to make is not whether we are like this but doing some thing about it to try and find a little peace. gina, i feel what makes us special is we can relate to the pain of being "different". we can open up and love like mose people can't. answerers? no. i don't think there are any good answeres. but i know i'm glad to be a woman inside and the outside i'm working on. all we can do is give each other a hug and go on. never never give up. hugs all
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lady amarant

Missed this thread earlier, but keep in mind that, in many cultures, trans-people were highly regarded as mediators, spiritually aware, "bridges", etc.

I think there are a couple of  reasons for this deeper understanding

Firstly, the idea that sufferings are karmic lessons. Experience is the best teacher, and in experiencing the kind of dysphoria, isolation, despair and stuff that we do at certain points in our lives, we are much more open to accepting the difficulties and circumstances others go through. We've been there, we've felt what it is like to be hated, feared, ridiculed. We know what it is like to feel totally alone, to be at war with yourself. So we are much less likely to do those things to others.

Another important point is that I think we, perhaps more than anybody else on this planet, are in a unique position to realise that human beings are NOT their bodies, that the real person is something deeper, something transcendant. With that rooted in our subconscious, I think it is easier for us to make that deeper connection, rather than equating people with the bodies they wear.

Finally, I think that our brains are also rather unique. I think there is ultimately more integration there, not just between our male and female parts, but between our left and right brains, our conscious and subconscious, our rational and our primitive minds. That kind of intergration I think generally gives us deeper insight and intuition, which blooms through into every aspect of our lives.

~Simone.
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Janet_Girl

For me, it is just part of me.  And that is not because I am on HRT.  I have always been that way and sometimes it is hard.  And now it is harder because my brain is now under the right hormones.  But I would not change a thing.
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Eva Marie

Quote from: lady amarant on November 16, 2008, 10:21:31 PM
Finally, I think that our brains are also rather unique. I think there is ultimately more integration there, not just between our male and female parts, but between our left and right brains, our conscious and subconscious, our rational and our primitive minds. That kind of intergration I think generally gives us deeper insight and intuition, which blooms through into every aspect of our lives.


I agree with this. I've always been considered the "voice of reason" and now I think I know why. Having a brain that is part female and part male gives me a unique viewpoint on most issues, although it causes me grief in a male world as someone trying to be a male.... with a mixed brain.
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cindybc

Hi Janet, and Lady Amarant and whom all else that may be interested,

This is certainly a topic to be looked into and just to consider for our own inquisitiveness as to just what being transsexual really means. I have always addressed it as an "inside job." Well anyway, for anyone who might be interested you may want to check out the Empaths and Empathy thread and you are all welcome to give your own opinions and sugestions. The more possibilities the better the understanding no matter how varied the suggestions might be. Please speak up! No one here is going to throw any rotten veggies or rocks at you, we are all safe within the walls of Susan's Trangender Forums.

You may call this making our own tools to better understand this mysterious phenomenon called transsexuality and our place in this grand scheme of things. I have always believed that it goes more than just flesh deep, maybe even soul deep. What connects soul and body anyway?
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,19157.msg303689.html#msg303689

Thank you

Cindy     
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gina

Thanks girls for your thoughts on this, I found them very interesting and sincere. Definitely giving me another way to view all of this.  :)

And thank you Cindy for that link...I'm checking it out next.....  :)

gina
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