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Sometimes I feel like a murderer ...

Started by lady amarant, November 17, 2008, 04:40:39 AM

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iFindMeHere

Quote from: Miss Bev on November 25, 2008, 12:53:20 PM
I treasure all the parts of my life.  The little boy who had little girl thoughts, the teenage boy who dated girls, but was afterall, lesbian, the man who tried, and succeeded, until Beverly won.  I treasure who I am now.  All of those people were me.


Bev



*applause* [:hug:]
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keriB

Quote from: lady amarant on November 17, 2008, 04:40:39 AM
I wish I could separate myself from him, so he wouldn't have to die. I just wish things were different.

~Simone.

It's cliche to us, but just think of it in terms of the butterfly scenario... you are evolving, not killing a part of yourself - that part of you will always be there.  I think society sometimes forces us to try and "separate" ourselves, when in fact we are inseparable... well, that's at least how I feel about myself - I am me regardless of how I am presenting, though I would prefer to present as female full-time.  I may be dressed in drab, but I'm still Keri..... ;)
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Brittany

Quote from: The_Unforgiven on November 23, 2008, 12:38:11 AM
I've always felt like it was the boy in me that sat in the corner, waiting for someone to notice him, while the girl ran about and was happy. This girl was not me, but at the time I did not notice it. But when I found that boy alone in the corner, I saw through the fake that was the girl. She had no heart, no soul. She didn't feel anything, she was just there to blind me from the truth. She's still there, but only to keep up the mask. She still is nothing, just a lifeless doll, now meant to fool everyone else. The boy stands behind her, ready to step up when the mask is no longer needed. That poor boy is me. I just wish I could get rid of the mask that binds my physical body to my anguish, and show everyone who I really am. Someday he will be able to come out of the shadows, and see the sun.
Reverse each "boy" and "girl" in that quote, and you've managed to capture a process of feelings that I myself have found myself thinking.

I'm not a boy. I thought I was at one time, I pretended to be, but then I noticed that I wasn't. It's all just been a facade. The real me has since come to her own and learned to live behind a mask, at least while she has to. She doesn't enjoy the mask, but will admit it's handy to keep around, at least for now. One day she'll be able to walk about without it, free to be herself instead of living in *his* prison. But at least she's there.

For the longest time I really didn't even notice her. I had myself convinced that, aside from a few abnormalities, I was the boy I paraded around as. At around puberty, the girl started to wake up. She moved around and disturbed the fake boy, and finally she managed to draw attention back to herself. She's the real me; the internal boy is a defense mechanism so that she could survive, and the external boy is the prison she was cursed with.

I hate pictures, I avoid getting my picture taken at all costs. I also avoid mirrors and looking directly into any reflective surfaces. I don't want to look at the mask right now; I'm weary of it and would like to walk freely as MYSELF.
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Sheila

I think that everyone of us who has transitioned has thought about our lives before. We all end them or we just extend our lives. For me, it was extension of my life. I was born wrong and I corrected the mistake. I can not change the past but I can embrace it as I have learned about my me through my past. I am who I am now and will, over the future, change who I am. We all transition, some more than others. Mistakes will be made along with successes.
Life is fun and exciting, not knowing what is around the next corner.
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Carolyn

Hey Simone, I can understand completely your thoughts about how you feel like a murderer. I feel like somehow or another I'm betraying my friends and family on some level; however I do think that if my friends and family look at me now and then they would see a major difference. I haven't started HRT or went Full-Time yet, but I am much happier now that everyone knows than I was before. Although I wish I didn't have to move out to go Full-time. In truth though, if you saw the way I was in "Male mode" and how I am when I am real, I was a completely different person. My "male-self" was the very embodiment of a man, and yet I was playing the hardest role in life to play, but now I am a lot more happier and I think everyone I know could agree.
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Wendy C

I look at the old photos and see some with smiles and some not but that is not what that boy/girl was feeling at the time. I smiled because someone said smile and I was an acommidating child. Mostly what I see though is the eyes and they shout girl. I just cannot look at an old picture without seeling the female that is there. Hugs

Wendy
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Vexing

Huh. Funny this thread should come up.
Was cleaning out an old desk today at one of the sites I support and I found an ID card with my old face on it.
Felt kind a guilty that I had rid the world of an (apparently) fairly normal, well adjusted, smiling guy that was loved by his parents and respected by his male colleagues - and that I'd replaced him with a...a...->-bleeped-<- who is despised by her parents and joked about behind her back at work.

Sometimes I think my old self deserved a better fate.
Like being eaten after trying to jump a Harley over an Olympic swimming pool full of sharks or something.
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lady amarant

Quote from: Vexing on December 11, 2008, 09:32:23 PMSometimes I think my old self deserved a better fate.
Like being eaten after trying to jump a Harley over an Olympic swimming pool full of sharks or something.

*chokegigglesnortsputter*

You're bad.

~Simone.
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Hypatia

Honey, you are not the murderer of that boy. He was fated to die from natural causes. On the contrary, you're more like his redeemer-- you came along at the right time just as he was dying, and stepped into his life to reanimate his body so it could live a new life.

Sort of like a Barrow-Wight. ;)
Here's what I find about compromise--
don't do it if it hurts inside,
'cause either way you're screwed,
eventually you'll find
you may as well feel good;
you may as well have some pride

--Indigo Girls
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soldierjane

Quote from: Vexing on December 11, 2008, 09:32:23 PMSometimes I think my old self deserved a better fate.
Like being eaten after trying to jump a Harley over an Olympic swimming pool full of sharks or something.

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lol... awesome.
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Alyssa M.

Re the original question ... see my signature.

And yes. There are many ways that I feel criminal, and I'm trying to get over them.

I think these feelings come partly from a sense that our identities don't really belong to us, but are posessed controlled by others. That's a violation. We should feel no more guilty for destroying our former identity to create a new one than we feel for cracking eggs to make a cake.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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Vexing

Quote from: Alyssa M. on December 15, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
We should feel no more guilty for destroying our former identity to create a new one than we feel for cracking eggs to make a cake.

A vegan would feel pretty guilty about that  :-\
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Alyssa M.

Ummm ... sometimes I feel like a murderer when I rip the still-bloody flesh of one of God's blessed creatures with my knife and devour it with my terrible gnashing teeth.

Miser, miser! modo niger et ustus fortiter! Nunc in scutella iaceo, et volitare nequeo; dentes frendentes video!!!

~Alyssa :icon_chick:
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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cindybc

#33
Sometimes I Feel Like a Murderer?

Well the thought had crossed my mind during my early transitioning, before I came out full time. Anyway here is a repeat performance of my story for any of who may not have read my story before.

I guess that would be 10 years ago now, well, it was a few years before I started my full time. I came home and kicked my shoes off and sat on the couch to relax and begin my daily meditations.

I found myself floating in a thick grey fog, then a short time later I felt my feet touching some type of surface. I thought I had heard something in the distance and stopped stalk still to listen more intently for the sound I thought I had heard. I could hear what sounded  like the soft sobbing of a child, the sound was much closer then I had first thought.

I followed the sobbing until I saw the small hunched-over form of a young child. The child stopped whimpering momentarily, maybe sensing my presence, then resumed her whimpering again. Her shoulders shaking at each whimper. It was a little girl. She wore a blue dress with white frilly sleeves and hem and had two blue ribbons in her hair. To my judgment the little girl was not much over six years old. She looked up at me with tear-smeared sad eyes. I reached out to embrace her in my arms but as soon as I touched her it was like an electrical shock, I was sent flying backwards through the thick fog once more where I found myself drifting in that same grey void I had arrived in.

A short time latter the fog thinned and was whisked away as though by a strong wind, I was once again able to see my surroundings. My surroundings were not immediately familiar to me until a short time later I found myself back to the days of early childhood. I then began to move like a movie on fast forward, where I seen myself feeling and experiencing every emotional scene from earliest childhood to the present time,  which at the time was the year 2000.

I was overwhelmed by all these feelings I had experienced as I sat there doing the only thing that made sense at the time: releasing it through the most profound soul depth cry I had ever had before in my life.

The next vision I had was not long after the first one.

Possibly a year later, just prior to my going full time, I again was sitting on the couch meditating,  and once again found myself floating in the grey fog. When the fog cleared and I looked about to get my bearings on my surroundings. From the fog emerged another dark form. The form wore some type of cloak and stood on a large triangularly shaped stone slab holding a broad sword point down on the stone slab. I thought that odd, no warrior would treat their sword thusly   

I approached the dark form, and suddenly it jumped off the stone slab, raising the sword over its head. I was quite aware of the possibility that the intent of this entity whom by now appeared to be quite familiar to me but could not quite place. It never entered my mind that this person may have the intent to impale me with the sword. For some reason I did not fear him, I just stood my ground staring him in the eyes, the eyes as they had been coined, the windows to the soul.

Unmoved and unafraid I watched intently this warrior's every movements and actions action as he took another couple of steps forward. I could see his face clearly now and as the full realization and recognition suddenly sunk in, sending tiny tendrils of goose flesh all over me. A slight breeze arose, ruffling my long hair and ruffling the hem of my long skirts. I continued standing transfixed before this warrior whom I knew to be part of me in a previous life.. 

This man lowered the sword, holding it in both hands before him, he then knelt down on his right knee and placed the broad sword on the ground before him, then stood up straight as a soldier and proclaimed that he would fight no more. I was expecting some type of military salute or something but he only stood very straight and still for a couple of seconds studying me. Then turned and walked back toward the stone slab, took his cloak off and draped the stone slab with it, then climbed up and laid on his cloak and within a few second he closed his eyes and drifted off to sleep.

Cindy emerged a short time later. And yes, that was the first time in my life that I had actually seen myself in any type of manifestation in a dream, and it was the last time. Cindy was on her own, but then Cindy truly loves her life. It has been a truly wonderful journey, experience and discovery of who I truly am. Maybe someday I will write my story in it's entirety.       

Cindy
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Alyssa M.

I've never had that kind of a vision, but I have seen myself vividly at times in lives that suddenly and viscerally seem as though they ought to have been mine -- twice, in particular, at holidays while visiting with families much like mine --a  smart nerdy dad, strong independent mom, three beautiful confident girls .... that middle girl, whose very life convicts me of her murder in my own family.

It suddenly strikes me as a new reason that Wilfred Owen's "Strange Meeting" affects me so much:

QuoteIt seemed that out of battle I escaped
Down some profound dull tunnel, long since scooped
Through granites which titanic wars had groined.

Yet also there encumbered sleepers groaned,
Too fast in thought or death to be bestirred.
Then ,as I probed them, one sprang up, and stared
With piteous recognition in fixed eyes,
Lifting distressful hands, as if to bless.

...

'Strange friend,' I said, 'here is no cause to mourn.'
'None,' said that other, 'save the undone years,
The hopelessness. Whatever hope is yours,
Was my life also; I went hunting wild
After the wildest beauty in the world,
Which lies not calm in eyes, or braided hair,
But mocks the steady running of the hour,
And if it grieves, grieves richlier than here.
For by my glee might many men have laughed,
And of my weeping something had been left,
Which must die now. I mean the truth untold

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I am the enemy you killed, my friend.
I knew you in this dark: for so you frowned
Yesterday through me as you jabbed and killed.
I parried; but my hands were loath and cold.
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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lady amarant

Quote from: Vexing on December 15, 2008, 05:45:08 PM
Quote from: Alyssa M. on December 15, 2008, 05:37:46 PM
We should feel no more guilty for destroying our former identity to create a new one than we feel for cracking eggs to make a cake.

A vegan would feel pretty guilty about that  :-\

LOLOLOL!

Good point! :P

~Simone.
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Janet_Girl

As I have said to friends, in the past .  The same person is still here, just a different package.  Granted that the mind is now more feminine-functioning.  And some of the things that 'he' liked to do, I could care less for now.  But did I kill him?  No he just moved on and let me become the person I was meant to be.

Janet

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