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Started by Rachael, December 11, 2008, 09:33:52 AM

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aubrey

Quote from: Starbuck on December 16, 2008, 12:29:04 AM
I wish just one person who gave me the advice the last two did ever considered how HARD that is for someone who grew up as part of a close family and pretty much has nobody else... maybe not.
Hmm well since the day I was born I was always closest with my mom. From the age of 15 to about 25 she was all I had, and I was all she had. I barely had any social interaction because I was a complete mess and she was there for me. When I told her I was trans she told me all those typical things u don't want to hear your family say...It's a sin, it's a phase, you chose it and can change back, it's wrong etc....I distanced myself from her because not having her approval drove me crazy, but after some time she is slowly starting to accept it. That's the type of thing I'm talking about, not abandoning or denying your family, but not letting them stop you from living your life or waiting for thier approval. Just my opinion.
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cindybc

Hi Soldierjane, I cried while reading your post, that was truly a heart felt experience. I am so happy that things worked out for you, you deserve to have found a good and fulfilling life today.

And hi Cindy James, from Cindy BC. Welcome to Susan's, your post was the most sensible and down to earth message I have had the privilege to read for the past while.

Well I have some good news to share with everyone. As you all know, 9 years ago all of my family turned their back on me, even after having made several attempts to reach them by mail failed. All I ever got back was Christmas cards with pictures of saints and such on them from my sister. That even stopped coming a couple of years ago.

I began transitioning full time 9 years ago and SRS four years ago. So I have pretty well reestablished a new life with new friends in a different part of the continent, It is possible to begin a new life. But I had given up on any chances of anyone from family to be contacting me, let alone wanting to share in my new life.

This morning I have received a Face Book message from my youngest niece, one of my sisters kids whom I helped raise, heck I use to change her diapers. It was so wonderful to hear from her, the last kid I had actually thought would make any effort to contact me. I sat staring at the monitor crying for nearly half an hour before I got calmed enough to type her back a message. I thank God for this small contact and I really do pray that it will some day come to be a growing relationship.

Starbuck there has been many wise and caring suggestions here I do pray that you find something among them that you can take home with you.

Cindy 
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Rachael

I've been away from them nearly 2 years... all they take my absense for is me enjoying my little fantisy...
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Vexing

Quote from: Starbuck on December 16, 2008, 12:29:04 AM
I wish just one person who gave me the advice the last two did ever considered how HARD that is for someone who grew up as part of a close family and pretty much has nobody else... maybe not.

Yeah, no-one else has it at hard as you.
I forgot that part.
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Rachael

I never suggested that, dont be so nasty... its uncalled for... I simpy pointed out i cannot, and will not cut and run. its called love, you dont choose who you love...
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Vexing

You accused me of not considering how hard it is to cut off your family.
I don't think that was called for either.
But you obviously did.
Shoe doesn't fit so well on the other foot, eh?
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Rachael

I dont know you... dont paticularly want your input to my sitution, you dont like it when i dislike your advice, so push off love... I'm truely sorry i dont find your advice utterly enlightening and helpful.
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Vexing

Quote from: Starbuck on December 16, 2008, 04:49:12 PM
I dont know you... dont paticularly want your input to my sitution,
Then don't post it in a public place.

Quoteyou dont like it when i dislike your advice, so push off love...
You misunderstand.
I don't like being accused of not considering simple things, like how hard it is to cut your family off.
Are we clear?
YOU made the not-very-nice assumption (about two of us).
I reacted to it to draw attention to it.

QuoteI'm truely sorry i dont find your advice utterly enlightening and helpful.
Rest assured, I'll try really hard to lose some sleep over that.
I really will.
Honest.
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Vexing

Quote from: Starbuck on December 16, 2008, 04:16:06 PM
its called love, you dont choose who you love...

P.S. I also love this part alluding that I don't know what love is, or understand how it works.
Makes me feel all...visceral and cellular inside.
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vanna

Is there really any need for this thread to become nasty and personal when it was actually about someones personal pain and wanting to share that with likeminded people going through the same or similar.

/sigh

Starbuck i really hope it works out for you sweetie, i can relate. I know this time of years very tough i just hope your okay hun?

/hug
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Rachael

Vexing seems to be living up to her name.. i dont know how i upset her, but meh...

Yeah, this time of year is difficult, but i spent the last one alone, alteast i have my boyfriend this year. Its strange really... I dont know quite how to get through to them. It seems its all down to prooving this is right for me. but when any example i give is thrown in my face, i have no idea how to proress. I tried leaving them for two years, but they made themselves the victims, and i fear further distance will only compound that... Maybe i need to force them to deal somehow?
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Candygirl

I can't judge your family, but I understand your hurt and disappointment by their apparent lack of sensitivity to your needs.
Families are a fickle lot. You'd think that your own parents would do their best to try and help you. When they turn out to be very rigid, and closed minded ,it makes your transition all the more difficult. Just when you need their love most, they withdraw it.
Fortunately I was blessed with a more open minded family. Everyone but one sister, rallied for me. Eventually she came around much later as well.

I knew from the very beginning, that my extended family would never accept me as a woman. Many of them, are just ignorant  enough, that even when I legally changed my name, they refused to address me by it. Some of my male cousins, called me a ->-bleeped-<-, and made fun of me. My only recourse was to write the entire bunch off. I haven't seen any of them in nearly 20 years.
You might have to brace yourself for the same thing, if your kin do not grow up, and realize what hurt they are causing you.

If it can work out for you, and you can be who you feel you are in your mind and heart...you just might win them over despite themselves.

I feel for you honey, I really do!  Good luck, OK.
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Kelsey

wow, thats deep.


All I was gonna say is since they dont buy you necessities for living they have it out for you. And thats why their jerks, its not you its them.
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Rachael

ok, maybe i need to be blunt.

Get out of my fething topic... i dont want your advice, and you're just trollling... any more and ill report your posts to the moderators...
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Vexing

Quote from: Starbuck on December 17, 2008, 12:29:25 AM
ok, maybe i need to be blunt.

Get out of my fething topic... i dont want your advice, and you're just trollling...
Don't ask for advice on a public forum if you don't want just any old ->-bleeped-<- (me) to comment.
I'm most certainly not trolling; I offered advice out of genuine concern and all you seem to want to do is use it as an excuse to lash out at people (me).
Please give me the script in advance so I can say exactly what you want me to say and you can get the positive affirmation you're craving and we can stop catfighting like a couple of moggies in heat.

Quoteany more and ill report your posts to the moderators...
Be my guest.

Oh, this isn't "your" topic at all.
Unless you're the one paying the site fees.
Which you are not, amirite?  ;)

If you don't like my advice, then ignore it and move on.
You're alluding that I'm just a troll, so follow the ancient computertube advice: don't feed the (perceived) troll!
Be mature and take some responsibility.
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Audrey

Wow and on and on it goes.............. 

Rach I know how ->-bleeped-<-ty that is with family and all.  My parents still aren't coming around after two years.  My extended family is prettty accepting which is really nice, but my parents are just holding out for some reason.  Its hard to get over that smouldering hatred that I feel for them after dealing with their BS.  Ive spend many nights thinking about how good it would feel to just tell them to go F themselves and be done with them completely but I know thats just letting them win.

I figure that fighting fire with fire will just get everyone burned.  So I am going to try something different.  I started by going to Thanksgiving and Im going to be there for every holiday I possibly can.  Ill probably start writing them letters and always try to keep things kosher between us as best I can.  And even when they try to belittle or insult me I am going to brush it off.  Eventually I am hoping that they will realize that they are the ones with the problem and not me as I am impervious to their attacks.   

I am not sure if this approach will work for you but it may be worth a try.

Audrey
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Candygirl

Girls;

Parents can be so stubborn. Sometimes it isn't a matter of not supporting your decision, it is that they are afraid. They can be afraid that they did something wrong, causing you to be like this. They cannot accept the loss of their son this way, and hold out hope, you'll outgrow this and come to your senses.

Which as we TS gals know, never happens once we are in tune with our core identity.

Parents can feel a great disappointment, and sadness, that their son isn't turning out to be who they thought, or wanted.
They may feel let down by you, and will place heavy blame on you for revealing this to them. A matter of TMI...
Parents who are limited by their own education and background, will also not quite step up to the plate...
They could be ashamed and afraid of what the family will say...

Some of them will turn their shock and disappointment into anger, and then decide to punish you. i.e. disowning you, throwing you out of the house, refusal to accept it. etc.

Your best chance to disarm them, and force them to deal with this real issue, is information. Rent videos about transsexuals, and what they go through. Send for information from gender clinics, or visit them in person.  Start off gentle, instead of dumping the whole load on them at once. Have one or both parents accompany you to a clinic, and talk to a SSW about it. Do not try to embarrass them into accepting your new found identity. Go easy. Let them also grow accustomed to your new needs and desires.
Never demand it.  Also, NEVER NEVER EVER show them ->-bleeped-<- porno. Those gals, do not help anything at all.
Instead, gather information off the net, about real life TS's and their successful transitions. It is out there to be found.

Be your own best advocate, being loaded with facts by doing the research first. Blog sites such as this one, may not necessarily be the best thing to use as your base of information...

Lastly, unfortunately, if your Dad is named something like Billy Bub, and nicknamed by his buddies;" snake "... and he and they like to get plastered on hooch, chase women and love their hunting dogs, and truck more than their wives of live in girl friends... and sport Harley Davidson and flaming Skull tattoo's,  You might have a problem convincing them that this is what you want...jus' saying. 


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Kaitlyn

Quote from: Rene' aka candygirl on December 17, 2008, 12:27:07 PM
Also, NEVER NEVER EVER show them ->-bleeped-<- porno.

Um... why would anyone do that?  That's like saying "NEVER NEVER EVER stick knives in your eyes."   :D
"The mind is not a vessel to be filled but a fire to be kindled."
— Plutarch
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Audrey

HAHAhaha true that.  "Look mom and dad I want to be like herrrr!!!!"   lol
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