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Sometimes I am tired, just tired...

Started by Gregori, August 10, 2006, 05:36:09 AM

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Gregori

... and wonder how I am going to walk this path for another day.

[melodrama] I do not prefer to engage in melodrama so I shall summarize my postion:  I am a 43 year old FtM who cannot, for many reasons, "pass", have surgery, or take hormones.  I do not wish to go into why I cannot, rather know that I cannot... this has been assessed and rationally decided.  Facts are facts. According to this world, I am female.  The world is incorrect in their assumption but this does not change the fact that I am treated and addressed as a woman.

There are some days where I just wonder how I am going to walk in this world for one more day.  There are times I wonder how I can look at this body one more time without losing my mind.  I would literally sell my soul for one glimpse of the real "me" in the mirror.

I am done now.  Thankyou.

[/melodrama]
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Kimberly

Careful, those souls go pretty fast and at a high price in the market you know... and you may not like what you see in that 'real you' anyway. ;) -- Meaning wishing for what isn't will probably not make you happy, and that the grass on the other side of the fence isn't always greener.


I can think of at least one reason Gregori, and from what I have seen she loves you so very much.

It sounds like you are rather hemmed in, but perhaps talking to a competent gender aware therapist may be of some help to you?


If it means anything I know what you mean by tired. I am as well, in ways I hope most will never even imagine. But something I have learned is that dwelling on what isn't will drive you into the dirt. Make sure you let yourself be happy, and make sure you focus on the good things of life, OFTEN.


Regardless I wish that something happens and makes life better for you, and I wish you good luck.
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Nero

Hello Gregori. Good to see you.
Quote from: Gregori on August 10, 2006, 05:36:09 AMThere are times I wonder how I can look at this body one more time without losing my mind.  I would literally sell my soul for one glimpse of the real "me" in the mirror.
I undertand how you feel. Although, from your posts, I understand that you feel you'll never see the real "you" in this lifetime, perhaps there are some small things you could do to ease the pain a bit.
If you're not currently binding, you could start. I can't stress enough the difference this small thing has made to my comfort level.
You could wear loose clothing to hide any curves you may have.
One thing I've heard from a lot of FTMs is that working out, going to the gym, weight training, etc., helps with body image. I personally wouldn't know, not being a fan of hard labour, but I can see where it could be beneficial.
Quote from: Gregori on August 10, 2006, 05:36:09 AM
There are some days where I just wonder how I am going to walk in this world for one more day. 
I feel this at times. When I do, I remember that the sun will come up, and I'll feel it's heat on my face, soon I'll feel the sweet breath of autumn, and finally the clean air of winter.
The world would keep turning, the sun would rise and set, but it would no longer shine on me, and I think of all the beauty in this world I would miss.

Nero
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Luc

I'm with Nero... bind, it'll make all the difference, and working out, in my opinion, does work... I started boxing and weight training a month ago and not only has it made me feel stronger, it also makes me feel more like a man. I've always been really muscular, but with just a little training I've been able to build even more. And the boxing helps me get out agressions over being TS and not being on T or having SRS, my parents, etc. All good ideas.

Rafe
"If you want to criticize my methods, fine. But you can keep your snide remarks to yourself, and while you're at it, stop criticizing my methods!"

Check out my blog at http://hormonaldivide.blogspot.com
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Buffy

Hi Gregori,

Nice to meet you.

The guys and girls talk a lot of sense above, listen to them.

I can't possibly relate to how you feel.... I spent most of my life wishing I was Female, but frightened, scared about doing something about it, but I totally empathize with you on the situation.... I was stuck in the wrong life, not just the wrong body.

I know a few FTM's who without hormones and surgery (so far), live the life they want. They have changed their diets, dress in male clothing, work out at the gym and are on their way to finding happiness.

Support groups are a great place to talk and meet other people (in real life).

As Tinkerbell said, everything has a solution, problems are only opportunities in disguise and with thought, effort and application they can be overcome or achieved.

It is not easy I know, but never give up on your dream. Like mine, it you work at it, at your own pace it can become reality.

Buffy

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Gregori

Thankyou all and I must apologize for not being able to explain myself.  There literally is no way for me to do so.  Please just take it at my word that this is how I must walk through life.  What I must change is my attitude and mindset.  Those are the only things I can change.  Please accept that this has been thought out and discussed.  Please accept that I am to walk through this world this way and that my only goal is to make peace with my condition.

I shall tell you of a few reason I cannot alter my appearance.  These are but a few.  As a young man (?) I was heavily involved in working out, was very, very muscular.  Almost competition level bodybuilder (if I could have gotten a tan... this was impossible) and a martial artist.   However, due to this bodies' shape I never passed as male.  I was always called "ma'am", "she", and "Lady", albeit with a great deal of fear-born respect.  This body is quite feminine.  At this time in my life I am not of the health nor the finances (I be po') to do any surgical modifications nor hormone therapy.  I cannot bind because the breasts are large, fibrous, and painful.  The list goes on.  And on.  And on.  Please suffice it to say that I have examined all options and all possible outcomes.  I am well-versed in the medical arts and say with foreknowledge of the state of health of this body.  Inga, my heart, you know the reason behind all the ones I state that I cannot alter this body.

Please suffice it to say that what I have to deal with is my mind.  I have a lovely Lady who adores me as a man.  She is currently asleep behind me, as a matter of fact.  Inga is my angel, my Hero, my raison d'etre.  Hence, while my situation is less than optimal, it could be much, much worse.

I am also a vain man.  Very.  This is a downfall of mine.  I do not know if most, or many, or any other transgenders have a set idea of what they should look like that is diametrically opposite from the body they inhabit to the point where no surgical mods can fix it, but I do.  For instance, the body in which I reside is 8 inches too short, etc.  The eye color of this body is drastically incorrect and this body cannot handle contacts (I have tried).  This body is of the incorrect racial combination and coloring.  I am vain enough that such things bother me. I wish to look in that mirror and see me just once.  I would like to look down at the hands typing this and see the hands I know I should have... just once.  Being closer to my correct "form" would be easier but it would not solve the problem.

I also live in a town where I fear that I would face hostilities as a woman dressing and acting as a man.  I think of these brave souls who do this and I applaud their stamina and strength.  Inga is called and taunted as "dyke", although I am not certain this is because of me.  However, my blood boils when this occurs.

I am seeking support groups but the only one I can locate is once a month and a four hour round trip to drive to.  I am also attempting to locate a TG counselor (or one knowledgeable in TG) and the closest one I have located is in the locale of the support group (she runs it) and costs $125 a session.  I am not a wealthy man.   My loved ones are willing to actually get second jobs to pay for my therapy, however, I know that therapy for someone in my shape must come frequently.  That would add up.  I would most appreciate any assistance with any other support groups or therapists in Ohio that I might afford.

I am ready to give up but Inga and some of my other friends are not.  I am not throwing in the towel because they refuse to themselves.  They purchase me trinkets to please me, to remind me they love me, they tell me all the time.  It is hard when they and I must walk in public and they, to protect me from the stares and ridicule I would bear, have to refer to me in the feminine.  It does not come naturally to them and it hurts them greatly.   

I am not threatening suicide because I would not do this to my loved ones.  I also do not self harm for the same reason.  Hence, I am "safe".  I do not want anyone to think that I am asking for sympathy this way.  I am not.

Oh I am hoping to get my Lady Inga to come back to the site :icon_love: and maybe another of those I love to come. :)

I am not, indeed, to see the real "me" in this lifetime.  I am not going to discuss my philosophies but I believe in the real possibility of seeing the real "me" in another.

What I seek to do now is to live the rest of this life out in as much peace as possible.  I seek to be able to step out that door and hear "she", "ma'am", "lady" without either wanting to fight or wanting to cry.  Inga has arranged for a local restaurant and hair cutting establishment to know of what I am and to not call me "she" (oh I have long hair because that is my preference and just get trims).  I give these businesses my patronage, of course.  Inga calls ahead of time and the word is put out and the only ones dealing with me know to not call me "she".

I seek to understand the dreams and why my mind is doing this to me.  I shall post about them in a separate post and ask if these are common.

I am an analytical man.  Highly.  I believe that with knowledge and understanding I can solve or come to terms with anything.  I seek this.  I take this problem apart, analyze each piece, put it back together, hoping for peace.  I have not found this yet.  I do not know anything further than I already do to add to the mix that might affect the outcome of my analyses.

I am throwing myself into this with the hopes that I can find something, somewhere, that shall "click" and grant me this peace.  Just coming here and seeing everyone's replies and support of me does help.  Just seeing that there is a FtM (and MtF) community helps me.  I have been alone all of these years.

Thankyou again for your time.
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Luc

Bro, I don't even know quite what to say... it hurts just to read what you're going through. I'm currently having to live with my parents for financial reasons, and I am not out to them, so here I am my female "self", always thought to be a lesbian, and unable to bind or dress just as I choose. However, I know there is a light at the end of the tunnel; as soon as I have the money, I'm out of their house and back to being the real Rafe, the man I know I am.

There are difficulties... I, like I already mentioned, am crazy poor and in debt and can't afford T therapy or SRS, and even if I had the money for T, it could be complicated by the fact I'm on 3 meds for depression and OCD. I'm trying to make the best of it, though. Granted, I have a lower voice than most females, and am able to grow facial hair naturally (though not exactly as well as men can). However, I think I know somewhat of what you're going through.

At least it sounds like you have an amazing partner... Inga sounds awesome, and it appears she truly loves you. She's right, in my opinion: don't give up. Many times, it's just the moment at which you lose hope that something amazing happens to turn it all around. I know; it happened to me. Had I joined this site 7 months ago, my posts would have been filled with self-loathing and pessimism. Now, however, I know I do that a bit, but things are looking up. Don't lose hope, Gregori. And we at Susan's will always be there for you, man.

Rafe the mighty
"If you want to criticize my methods, fine. But you can keep your snide remarks to yourself, and while you're at it, stop criticizing my methods!"

Check out my blog at http://hormonaldivide.blogspot.com
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Melissa

*Hugs*

I'm sorry you are not able to transition.  I'm sure that must be hard to say the least.  Transition is not only about changing physically, but also accepting the things you can not change.  It seems you are already onto this.  Even if you are not able to have a male identity, I see no reason why you couldn't at least dress in male clothes.  It might help relieve some of the pain at least.

Melissa
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Nero

Quote from: Gregori on August 11, 2006, 06:46:20 AM
Thankyou all and I must apologize for not being able to explain myself.  There literally is no way for me to do so.  Please just take it at my word that this is how I must walk through life.  What I must change is my attitude and mindset.  Those are the only things I can change.  Please accept that this has been thought out and discussed.  Please accept that I am to walk through this world this way and that my only goal is to make peace with my condition.

Accepted. I shall put no further emphasis on passing or binding. Know that I am here for you, and hope to be of some assistance, Gregori.
Quote from: Gregori on August 11, 2006, 06:46:20 AM
I am also a vain man.  Very.  This is a downfall of mine.  I do not know if most, or many, or any other transgenders have a set idea of what they should look like that is diametrically opposite from the body they inhabit to the point where no surgical mods can fix it, but I do.  For instance, the body in which I reside is 8 inches too short, etc.  The eye color of this body is drastically incorrect and this body cannot handle contacts (I have tried).  This body is of the incorrect racial combination and coloring.  I am vain enough that such things bother me. I wish to look in that mirror and see me just once.  I would like to look down at the hands typing this and see the hands I know I should have... just once.  Being closer to my correct "form" would be easier but it would not solve the problem.
You are not alone. I, too am rather vain.
I see now why surgical mods and hormones would be of little use to you. That is quite a drastic difference.
I am one of those who have a set idea of how I should look, so I understand completely your dilemma.
Because I don't just want to be male, I want to be me. Anything less, and I'd just as soon remain female.

Quote from: Gregori on August 11, 2006, 06:46:20 AM
  I have a lovely Lady who adores me as a man.  She is currently asleep behind me, as a matter of fact.  Inga is my angel, my Hero, my raison d'etre.

I am ready to give up but Inga and some of my other friends are not.  I am not throwing in the towel because they refuse to themselves.  They purchase me trinkets to please me, to remind me they love me, they tell me all the time.  It is hard when they and I must walk in public and they, to protect me from the stares and ridicule I would bear, have to refer to me in the feminine.  It does not come naturally to them and it hurts them greatly.   

What I seek to do now is to live the rest of this life out in as much peace as possible.  I seek to be able to step out that door and hear "she", "ma'am", "lady" without either wanting to fight or wanting to cry.  Inga has arranged for a local restaurant and hair cutting establishment to know of what I am and to not call me "she" (oh I have long hair because that is my preference and just get trims).  I give these businesses my patronage, of course.  Inga calls ahead of time and the word is put out and the only ones dealing with me know to not call me "she".
I'm envious. I don't have to tell you how lucky you are to find such a gem as your lady. There's nothing I wouldn't give to be loved like that.
I wish I could be of more help to you, but I can't bear to be called ma'am either.
Just know that I am here, and I completely empathize with your situation.

Nero
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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2GregoriTrue

Quote from: Gregori on August 11, 2006, 06:46:20 AM

Please suffice it to say that what I have to deal with is my mind.  I have a lovely Lady who adores me as a man.  She is currently asleep behind me, as a matter of fact.  Inga is my angel, my Hero, my raison d'etre.  Hence, while my situation is less than optimal, it could be much, much worse.

I'm no angel and you and I both know it.  I am also no prize catch, but what I am is a woman in love with her man.  I love you Gregori and I know that in your situation, with the way you see yourself, you may think that makes me an angel.  I feel the same way about you.  I know I'm not perfect, but you treat me as I am.  You're my Hero.

Quote from: Gregori on August 11, 2006, 06:46:20 AM
I also live in a town where I fear that I would face hostilities as a woman dressing and acting as a man.  I think of these brave souls who do this and I applaud their stamina and strength.  Inga is called and taunted as "dyke", although I am not certain this is because of me.  However, my blood boils when this occurs.

They call me a dyke... and I laugh at them because I go straight home to the arms of my Gregori.  I am not harmed at all.  I know who I am and I know who you are.  What they believe is rather insignificant in the face of the truth, Love. 

Quote from: Gregori on August 11, 2006, 06:46:20 AM
Oh I am hoping to get my Lady Inga to come back to the site :icon_love: Thankyou again for your time.
It may appear I left, but I kept coming back and reading.  I couldn't stay away and somehow, reading others posts, even though they didn't answer my thoughts and questions directly, made sense that I could apply to us.  It helped being here.  I needed to be here.
This is hard for me too Gregori.  There are times I want to rage, tear, scream and fight against an invisible foe.  I feel helpless and then the rage rises.  I do love you, and it upsets me to feel helpless in something that is so important and special to me.  Even though I deny being an angel, I am not exactly helpless and it's hard to find something where all I can do is cry... and beg uncaring or deaf Gods to hear us.

Thank you all again, for allowing me into your posting area.  I will be off now to re-introduce myself to the Significant Others Area.

Love to all,
Inga

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Kismet

Quote from: Gregori on August 10, 2006, 05:36:09 AM
... According to this world, I am female.  The world is incorrect in their assumption but this does not change the fact that I am treated and addressed as a woman.

There are some days where I just wonder how I am going to walk in this world for one more day.  There are times I wonder how I can look at this body one more time without losing my mind.  I would literally sell my soul for one glimpse of the real "me" in the mirror. ...

[/melodrama]

I know exactly how you feel. I go through those feelings too. I'm only just about eightteen, though. Sometimes I get horrifically depressed at the reflection in the mirror, at a glance downwards at my breasts, at the flat area between my legs.
Goddammit.

However, I always get over it, whether it be just by myself or in the arms of my good ol' mate.
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