LGBT inmates face unusually high risk of sexual assault in prison

[tekla]

Well don't believe everything you read, and remember the old confederate states all have death sentences, and would just as soon kill you as feed you.

[goingdown]

I am sorry but i had to remove those texts to protect those ladies I wrote.

[Lisbeth]

What do they do with intersex people?  Or do they just not commit crimes?

If the correctional people decide it's a penis, they put them with the men.

[goingdown]

I know 2 post-op women incarcerated in America. I write more just for us.

[jenny_]

What do they do with intersex people?  Or do they just not commit crimes?

If the correctional people decide it's a penis, they put them with the men.

I mean thats my point, if doctors struggle to tell the difference between a micro-penis and a clitoris, then how is a prison warden going to be able to?  They might as well decide an intersex persons "prison sex" by chance.  Which really makes the present system completely farcical!

[tekla]

Well, the doctor cares, the warden doesn't. 

[goingdown]

In case you have undergone full SRS it would very odd to say that you have a penis.

[Lisbeth]

In case you have undergone full SRS it would very odd to say that you have a penis.

In Texas that doesn't matter. Pre-op or post-op, you're put in with the men. Unless you're FtM. Then you're put in with the women.

[goingdown]

So you are from Texas because you know that so well?

[cindybc]

I would sooner go back to living on the street where I was 23 years ago then go to any of those jails. I only spent one night in a drunk tank and that was an open cell deal. They didn't lock the cell door if they considered you harmless. Good place to be on a cold night. Give you something to eat and all the coffee you can drink then kick your ass out as soon as it's day light.

Anyway I won't be back to this thread, gives me the creeps.

Cindy

[goingdown]

the answer that you absolutely mostly get when you ask from expert is that most state house post-op traswomen with women. 

Now we found a state that is expection for general practice is Texas. Other states?

[Rachael]

Prison would seem an aweful situation... I can see cases where it would be accidental, or wrongful, but in cases of guilt, the person does need to realise thier actions... If you break the law, you go to jail... but i think it is unfairly cruel to subject a m2f of any stage, that is transitioned, to male prison...

I fail to see the relevance of the excuses of putting m2fs in these jails... they may leer at the women or attack them? erm, only as much as any of the other lesbian females in womens jails... oh gosh, a woman might see a penis! big fething deal.... they are in jail, i doubt its going to be a huge shock should they possibly see a glimpse...

Any idiot who is for putting m2fs in male jails must see the fact they are consigning people to abuse and rape... but hey, we are subhuman to them, what do they care?

[goingdown]

Quate: woman might see a penis (penis can be used to rape)

That is a main argument against putting any pre-ops to female prisons. However in most states post-ops are also legally women so I assume that they go to female prison (expect Texas?)

[Rachael]

hands can be used for rape... i dont see them being banned from womens prisons...

and its CAN not will, this all hinges on sexuality, a lesbian can rape another woman, why would a m2f, just for posession of a penis, want to rape a woman? apparently m2fs transition because they are gay men... but now we all want to rape women when we go to prison...
somethings awry...

[goingdown]

I do not know any state in the USA that would house pre-ops (with penis) in female prisons. However majority of states house post-ops (without penis) to female prisons.

Even the rule is based mainly for wrong reasons according to my sources it is the best rule TS-women in the USA may have. Other is rule like Lisbeth described being in TX.

[goingdown]

I go even so far that I place a little question mark after the described TX situation!

[Lisbeth]

So you are from Texas because you know that so well?

No, thank god, but I know girls who are and/or were.

hands can be used for rape... i dont see them being banned from womens prisons...

and its CAN not will, this all hinges on sexuality, a lesbian can rape another woman, why would a m2f, just for posession of a penis, want to rape a woman? apparently m2fs transition because they are gay men... but now we all want to rape women when we go to prison...
somethings awry...

Let's be clear about Texas law here. You are and always will be what it says on your birth record in Texas, and Texas law says that "rape" is a male forcing intercourse with a female. Therefore a lesbian cannot rape anyone, and forcing intercourse with an MtF post-op person is not rape. It may be assault, but it's not rape.

[goingdown]

I have asked many times the question from people in different states. All say that post-op go to female prison. Why TX is different?

[lisagurl]

Each county in Texas makes their own rules.

[goingdown]

For example OH does not recognize legal sex change. When asked how OH DOC places a transwoman they say that  it depends on external genitals. TX seems to be meaner.