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Started by Terra, February 09, 2009, 03:01:30 PM

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Terra

Sunday I went shopping with a female friend to get ready for an upcoming date. While there a guy started to hit on her, to the point that it was obvious she was mad at his continued attempts. He also didn't listen to he to go away, so I stepped in and got nose to nose with him, and told him to kiss off.

Afterwords my friend told me that she was surprised to see me do that, because she knew me before transition. Before HRT I would have still confronted him, but I wouldn't have been so aggressive doing so. But She told me she honestly was worried that I might rip the guy a new one.

Now it may be that i'm older, or more stressed, but I have noticed an increase in my nature to be more outspoken, and more confrontational. Typically and stereotypically male traits. Could it be the estrogen? It really is the only thing that has changed in the last three years, and when I think back that is when I started to change.

Anyone else experience something similar?
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Nero

given the situation, i'd say your 'female instincts' took over. you're just now more attune to men being a threat.
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Kristen

Being outspoken and confrontational is more of a female trait than a male one.

Women will usually be the first to say something like "we need to talk.." while the guys usually avoid these confrontations and conversations at all cost.
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je

Well, if it had been me, I would've avoided confronting some dude like that -- especially if I haven't a clue how they will react.
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Terra

Quote from: Nero on February 09, 2009, 03:50:21 PM
given the situation, i'd say your 'female instincts' took over. you're just now more attune to men being a threat.

It isn't just with this guy, i'm getting more confrontational with everyone. I mean, I can be a real bitch at times. Its not that i'm trying to be, but its like the quite and reserved guy is being replaced by a brash and loud woman.
"If you quit before you try, you don't deserve to dream." -grandmother
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tekla

Boy or girl, if you're going to talk the talk, you - sooner or later - are going to be asked to walk the walk.  Ready for that?
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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mina.magpie

I think it's more to do with confidence and assertiveness than aggression sweetie. Aggression is as often as not about proving something, about forcing others to your way of thinking, sometimes through violence or coercion. By contrast, assertiveness is simply not being afraid to speak up when there is a need to do so, about standing up for your right to choose, or in this case, that of your friend.

Of course, Tekla is right. You do need to be careful still, read situations and pick your battles. There's a right and a wrong way of doing assertive - my brother is a good example of the right way ... when he speaks it's, in this quiet, assured authoritative voice people just listen to. He never gets angry or aggressive or stuff, but people listen. And importantly, he doesn't overreach - he is very careful in speaking on matters he doesn't know about or that don't affect him or people close to him directly. He'll give opinions about those if asked, but he won't go in with that certainty that he'll be listened to, and I think people learn to respect that he knows his boundaries. By contrast, many people try to pull assertive off all the time, but when they don't get their way they get belligerent and aggressive and obstructive.

So yeah, pick your battles, and when you can't pull assertive off, or it just won't work, remember that other great social lubricant, passive-aggressiveness, can also be really useful sometimes. ;)

Mina.
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Terra

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Quote from: Kiera on February 10, 2009, 08:42:51 AM
Terra, *agreed* I think it's just a matter of being more outspoken now about defending your own "territory". Could it be you & your girlfriend are more than just "friends"?

Doubt that, she is quite taken. Besides, I was shopping to go out with someone else, and once i'm after someone, or going out with someone, I don't really look at others in that way. Its like a switch gets thrown or something.

I don't know what to say about assertive vs aggressive, maybe its both. But when it comes to telling people off, or stepping up and talking to someone everyone kinda ducks their head to I can and do do it.

*edit* I just suddenly had this pop in my head, but I think it fits. I think i've suddenly had the behavior of a teenager. Not that i'm acting immature, but in how they deal in general with people and people they don't like. Its hard to describe, but i think i'm acting like a teen. Weird. :icon_confused2:
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tekla

Conclusion? Females are very territorial, much more than men?

The other conclusion, one many people have reached at many different clubs, don't mess with NYC bouncers.
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Brielle

There is a way of disconnecting from overly aggressive people that has to do with your energy. 
What they really want is to literally take your energy. 

Being conscious of (your own and their) body posture, voice tone, eye contact all play a part.  I young age how to become 'invisible', which I never knew at the time I was developing an ability to control my  energetic being. 

I still haven't perfected it, not by a long shot, but each interaction that tempts my deeper urges to react, rather than respond, is another lesson.  It's really good that you are taking this learning approach to how you feel.  Congrats - it's so easy to just bury it all.

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