But you didn't even act like a girl! (or boy, etc.) (thoughts on the subject)

[Shana A]

What about tip toing through the tulips with me.  by Tiny Tim

I love Tiny Tim! I think s/he might have been trans too.

PS, sorry Cindy, I inadvertently modified your post while trying to reply to it.


Z

[cindybc]

Zat iz, OK Zythra, my couzin from Marz, Tiny Tim, tip toes through the tulips once more.

Cindy

[imaz]

Interesting discussion

I got it both ways, being bullied by at school boys for being perceived too feminine and accused by my girlfriends and lovers of not being transgendered/transexual because I was too masculine!

The only group that have always accepted and loved me for who I am were and are lesbians. Don't know why but they enjoy both sides of me and have never doubted my gender identity (far less than myself in fact). They saved my life and let me make peace with myself for which I'm eternally grateful.

I'm not really a religious person but our common ground as Muslims from oppressed gender/sexual minorities has held us together through the good times and the bad times. We are family...

[V M]

LOL, perhaps saying something slightly more lady-like while practicing could be a good idea 

Z

Virginia? Lady like? Let's not get too ambitious 

I drove for Tiny Tim when I was a chauffeur in the Bay area. Nice person, let me play his Ukulele 
I picked him up at the airport and he requested me to drive for the whole time he was there

[Shana A]

Virginia? Lady like? Let's not get too ambitious 

I drove for Tiny Tim when I was a chauffeur in the Bay area. Nice person, let me play his Ukulele 

I assume you never washed your hand that touched the uke again!   

Z

[V M]

I assume you never washed your hand that touched the uke again!   

Z

I play south paw also. He said he was rather impressed. He played a bunch of songs as we traveled from Santa Cruz to SF and back. Including the ever famous Tip Toe through the Tulips 
We took the coastal route and stopped to hang out at a few beaches
Tiny Tim playing Uke on the beach was a surprise that I never expected

[Shana A]

I play south paw also. He said he was rather impressed. He played a bunch of songs as we traveled from Santa Cruz to SF and back. Including the ever famous Tip Toe through the Tulips 
We took the coastal route and stopped to hang out at a few beaches
Tiny Tim playing Uke on the beach was a surprise that I never expected

Z is jealous... some people have all the luck, private Tiny Tim concerts on the beach...   

[V M]

If it makes you feel any better. I also drove Madonna to go shopping in SF. Was she ever in a stinky mood 

[cindybc]

I remember seeing him for the first time on black and white TV on the ed Sullivan Show, "and we have a really big shew for you tonight!" My mom loved Tiny Tim too.

I guess my mom wasn't very fussy about what kind of music she listened too, she liked pretty well all the silly stuff I liked,
anything from Patty Page in how much is that little doggy in the window. to
Shirley Temple in Good Ship Lolly Pop.
Jimmy Boyd in I saw Santa Claus kissing mommy under the Christmas tree last night.
David Saville in the chipmunk songs.
Rolf Harris in my boomerang wont come back.
Sheb Wooley in the one eyed, one horned, flying purple people heater... er I mean eater.
David Savile the Witch Dr.
J. Frank Wilson in Last Kiss. Bobby Goldsboro in Hunny.
Tony Bennett In the middle of an Island. Beach Boys  KoKomo.
Elvis Presley's Blue Hawaii, right on up to the beat of the hippy days and the age of rock and roll.
"Wow!" talk about going down memory lane hu? I guess I was really paying attention to that there little beige plastic radio up on the shelf above the kitchen table when I was just a little thang drawing pictures for mommy and daddy, yep, a big old red arborite and chrome kitchen table with matching stuffed red plastic covered chairs and chrome.

Oh my goodness, Tink you would have had fun playing jungle with my sister and I, complete with hula skirts and make shift palm trees we decorated the floor lamps with green cloth cut in tatters to look like leaves on the palm trees. We always played pretend games when mom and dad were next door visiting the neighbors.

Cindy

[Hypatia]

If what you describe, the pitch modification, is the only thing a male larynx did, it would still sound like a totally male falsetto.

Resonance and intonation are much more important than pitch for making a voice be female. Lift the resonance up out of the chest and throat, center it in the forehead. One of the subtle things to learn is how to inflect the intonation patterns in sentences in a natural womanly way. It can't be all monotone like men speak. You need rising and falling patterns of intonation according to how the words and meaning flow in a sentence. That can only be acquired by listening carefully to women and imitating until it becomes second nature. If you don't get that down accurately, you'll only sound like a drag queen. Record your voice and play it back to check.

Also, raising the pitch helps, but it only helps if the resonance and intonation are done right.

Developing a fem. voice is easier than you might think. Do you have a piano handy? Start at A-3. That's the A below middle C. That's were the female voice generally starts. So run the A scale up and down while making sentences. "I picked a booger from my nose and flicked it on the wall La La La" or what ever. Have fun with it 

[Pica Pica]

I assume you never washed your hand that touched the uke again!   

Z

I adore Tiny Tim, my second favourite ever after Captain Beefheart.

I look back and don't see myself acting like a girl or a boy...just a weird kid who played with handpuppets.
Post Merge: February 17, 2009, 11:33:29 AM

I guess I was really paying attention to that there little beige plastic radio up on the shelf above the kitchen table when I was just a little thang drawing pictures for mommy and daddy

me too, mowtown makes me think of ironing.

[V M]

Hypatia brings up some very good points. The pitch, tone and inflection are very important to learn also. I was somewhat lucky to be mainly raised by women. So allot of that came naturally for me. My challenge was learning to talk like a man 
A good way to learn is take a pocket size recorder and strike up a conversation with a woman that has a nice voice you like. Ask a couple of questions and let her do most of the talking 
Also getting an inexpensive acoustic guitar tuner is good to practice matching the notes of the A scale 

[Shana A]

I adore Tiny Tim, my second favourite ever after Captain Beefheart.

I love the Captain too... wouldn't that have been an amazing collaboration, Tiny Tim & Captain Beefheart!

Z

[Aiden]

I've been told that as well by my mom least as far as when was real young.  I was somewhat a tomboy or more so than typical tomboy growing up though.  was about puberty I started trying to be more feminine in some ways that and always was a kid trying to please parents.

[Pica Pica]

I love the Captain too... wouldn't that have been an amazing collaboration, Tiny Tim & Captain Beefheart!

Z

alas, we shall never know

[imaz]

Also getting an inexpensive acoustic guitar tuner is good to practice matching the notes of the A scale 

Hehe! Sometimes notice the guitar tuner flash when I forget to turn it off...

[V M]

Hehe! Sometimes notice the guitar tuner flash when I forget to turn it off...

Then it's time to buy a new 9V battery