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Started by petzjazz, March 18, 2009, 09:42:51 PM

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Sophie90

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Jaimey

If curiosity really killed the cat, I'd already be dead. :laugh:

"How far you go in life depends on you being tender with the young, compassionate with the aged, sympathetic with the striving and tolerant of the weak and the strong. Because someday in life you will have been all of these." GWC
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petzjazz

Blueflare: (delight) That's what I was quoting in the OP! I'd seen that once. Where is it from?
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Alyssa M.

petjazz -- see my first response -- xkcd.com ;)
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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tekla

She responded by saying that it was impossible to be racist against white people. I told her to look up the word "racism" in a dictionary.

Had either of you done that, the first thing you would have noticed is that the two things 'racism' and being 'racist' are in fact, two different deals.  One is an institutional behavior, the other is an (admittedly) stupid personal decision usually reached out of total ignorance.  You can not use the words interchangeably.  I'm kinda surprised Nichole didn't catch that.

So, in the USA its impossible for honkies to be a victim of institutionalized discrimination, but in other places, there are different majorities, with different divisions.  I worked overseas, and its different in different places.  You want both racism and racist thinking the USA ain't got nothing on either Japan or Saudi Arabia.  It's the binary thinking that there is us and them, and you're not one of us.  And its nothing new.  The Greeks had the world divided between Greeks and Barbarians, the Jews between, Jew and Gentile or "god's chosen people" and goys.

So it goes.

FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Marshplains

Rudyard Kipling, The White Man's Burden, 1899

Take up the White Man's burden--
Send forth the best ye breed--
Go bind your sons to exile
To serve your captives' need;
To wait in heavy harness,
On fluttered folk and wild--
Your new-caught, sullen peoples,
Half-devil and half-child.

Take up the White Man's burden--
In patience to abide,
To veil the threat of terror
And check the show of pride;
By open speech and simple,
An hundred times made plain
To seek another's profit,
And work another's gain.

Take up the White Man's burden--
The savage wars of peace--
Fill full the mouth of Famine
And bid the sickness cease;
And when your goal is nearest
The end for others sought,
Watch sloth and heathen Folly
Bring all your hopes to nought.

Take up the White Man's burden--
No tawdry rule of kings,
But toil of serf and sweeper--
The tale of common things.
The ports ye shall not enter,
The roads ye shall not tread,
Go mark them with your living,
And mark them with your dead.

Take up the White Man's burden--
And reap his old reward:
The blame of those ye better,
The hate of those ye guard--
The cry of hosts ye humour
(Ah, slowly!) toward the light:--
"Why brought he us from bondage,
Our loved Egyptian night?"

Take up the White Man's burden--
Ye dare not stoop to less--
Nor call too loud on Freedom
To cloke your weariness;
By all ye cry or whisper,
By all ye leave or do,
The silent, sullen peoples
Shall weigh your gods and you.

Take up the White Man's burden--
Have done with childish days--
The lightly proferred laurel,
The easy, ungrudged praise.
Comes now, to search your manhood
Through all the thankless years
Cold, edged with dear-bought wisdom,
The judgment of your peers!
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NicholeW.

Quote from: tekla on March 22, 2009, 01:36:24 PM
She responded by saying that it was impossible to be racist against white people. I told her to look up the word "racism" in a dictionary.

Had either of you done that, the first thing you would have noticed is that the two things 'racism' and being 'racist' are in fact, two different deals.  One is an institutional behavior, the other is an (admittedly) stupid personal decision usually reached out of total ignorance.  You can not use the words interchangeably.  I'm kinda surprised Nichole didn't catch that.

So, in the USA its impossible for honkies to be a victim of institutionalized discrimination, but in other places, there are different majorities, with different divisions.  I worked overseas, and its different in different places.  You want both racism and racist thinking the USA ain't got nothing on either Japan or Saudi Arabia.  It's the binary thinking that there is us and them, and you're not one of us.  And its nothing new.  The Greeks had the world divided between Greeks and Barbarians, the Jews between, Jew and Gentile or "god's chosen people" and goys.

So it goes.



O, Nichole caught it and continuously said "institutional" actions were racist and that the backlashes against them are just that, backlashes.

But there are times that others need to read what's there rather than their reactions to it.

N~
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