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this went far worse than i imagined, oddly enough.

Started by hayden., March 21, 2009, 07:17:09 PM

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hayden.

after a good long while (years to be exact), i finally mustered up the courage to come out to my mother. i wrote her a letter, so my thoughts would be organized. i also really didn't want to be in the same room as her when she was reading it, anyway.

the worst part is, she wouldn't even read it.
she read the first paragraph, and then deleted it.

i would've preferred her reading it and then being upset, if anything. at the very least hearing me out, rather than dismiss me and say she honestly couldn't care less how much courage it took me to write it; she's not reading it.
the first paragraph was very brief and consisted of what she already knew ("gender issues"). those are not my words, mind you. she knows nothing beyond that, i'm sure. my letter was explaining everything. she thinks it's a choice; the letter went over all of that ->-bleeped-<-. i made it very clear and detailed, to-the-point.
refuses to read it, deleted it and will not speak to me.

i must say, i really do envy you lucky few that have parents that are even semi-accepting / semi-understanding of you.
normally, i wouldn't care in the slightest because i don't desire other's approval; but i still do reside in her house. the logical answer to most of you would be: move out.
not feasible, since i'm not legal just yet.

how frustrating.

thank you for listening, any advice would also be quite appreciated.

- hayden
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sd

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Cindy

Sorry Hayden

She may be in shock and denial mode. I would suggest (and this is only my opinion not anything expert ;)). Let it lay for a day or so and then try and have a conversation about it.

I'm not sure if you are MtF or FtM, makes no difference. What other children does she have? Is she "losing" her only son or daughter? Is Dad still around ? Would your coming out affect his andher relationship?
Is she homophobic?

Anyhow take it easy, it's a long road

Cindy James
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Zelane

Well perhaps when things cold down a bit. You can try but talking directly to her instead of a letter.

Its sad she even took the opportunity to try to understand. Same reaction that my mother has. Not like she really cares about me anyway.


Just stay calm, think what other steps and things you can do. And good luck.
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Kristen

There is a wall that runs between America and Mexico that's primary purpose it to keep others out, maintain our country's integrity, and safely contain it's citizens.

It fails miserably at this job. The people who wish to pass beyond this wall have the options of going over, under, and sometimes through it just as easily as those that choose not to deal with this wall and, simply go around it.

Historically, all walls fail or come down. Great Wall, Berlin Wall, Pink Floyd's Wall, i think you get my point.
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Cindy

Sorry I'm not wanting to highjack the post.

Has the USA really put up a Mex wall?
That's terrible. I obviously don't understand the situation but the last time I as in the USA (more than ten years ago) it was the mexicans and Costa Rica's who were doing all the jobs no one wanted. I thought they were wonderful!
Lovely polite and hard working. We did buy some cokes from a store. They guy asked what country was I from. I told him; but why ? I asked? Americans never say thank you to me, was his reply.

Mmm,m

Cindy James
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tekla

The wall is only in some places, and its not much of a deterrent, and I wonder, if Australia was not an island, and had those borders where anyone can, and does, cross at will, if you would not see it differently.

For the record, there are somewhere between 12 and 20 million (yeah, MILLION - the number of course, depends on who is doing the counting and how) people in the US who did not enter legally.  In other words, we have potentially as many illegal immigrants in the USA as Australia has Australians.  Think on that Cindy.

To Hayden. *the poster and all...  I have a saying at work.  When people ask me a question, I often tell them I'm pleasantly ignorant on the answer, which my people know really means, "I not only don't know the answer, but when you find out, DO NOT run back here and tell me - I don't care."  Or maybe I do care, but I'm busy enough.  Or its just something, like, say, my kids sex life that I really didn't want to know about all that much - in fact, I actively tried not to hear that stuff.

Now you mom may well have (as most people did, and do) grown up in a world where no-one she ever knew, or heard about questioned their gender - so she may well have less than zero understanding of the issues, questions, motives, and all that - hell, its probably just Gas Music from Jupiter to her and not a single thing about it can she even begin to comprehend.   So it could be that:
a) she thinks its just something that (hopefully) you might grow out of when you grow up.
b) It your problem, and she can't solve all of them for you, your moving out soon enough, leave it till then.
c) was farking insulted to the max, and at that I'm shocked that she even read the first paragraph.

Really.  You live with this person.  They have taken care of you.  I suppose they still support you to some degree, or you'd be out.  (I left at 17, I know others who did it even younger).  And you write them a note?

No, you write a note that goes "Hey dad, took the car to go to the store, be back at 5."  You don't write a note about something important.  You do that face to face, man to man.  Whatever. 

As you wrote: i also really didn't want to be in the same room as her when she was reading it, anyway.  No problem dude, she wasn't going to read it anyway.  Problem solved.  Next problem....

at the very least hearing me out, rather than dismiss me and say she honestly couldn't care less how much courage it took me to write it; she's not reading it.
She didn't have to hear it out, remember you wrote it, not spoke it.  You can only hear a person out face to face, man to man (or human to human if you prefer).  And it does not take some huge amount of courage to write a letter, it takes more to face the people, and even then, I'm not sure that is even courage, its just character.

Its a hella lot harder to dismiss someone who is in front of you, its damn easy to delete an email.  (For future reference)
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Cindy

Sorry all
I don't wish to steal the post but:
Tekla, Australia ( sorry trivial) we have thousands of boat people trying to get here. After the Vietnam disaster we collected them. Maybe not in numbers but in % populaion. There are UN rulings on refugees.

I know both A and U fit into them. But they made the rules. Sorry very tired.


Cindy lack of sugar need to find my injection
s***t
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