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Judas

Well, I guess I'll just jump right off the board-- my name is Judas. That's what you can call me, nevermind what my birth certificate might tell you. I have self-identified as male for a number of years, although since my memories of early childhood are few, far between, and hazy in the extreme, I couldn't tell you if I had similar knowledge at a younger age. I first recognized that something was 'off' when I was thirteen,  and I was growing breasts. My immediate reaction was a strong desire to chop them off, and realizing that this meant I was now officially a girl didn't help. Like I said, I'm hazy about early childhood, but I don't remember ever sincerely thinking of myself as a girl. I remember acting like one for the benefit of my parents-- that's about it. I still wear my first sports bra to keep my chest as small as possible.

I'm closeted, and trying to decide not to be. You'd think it'd be easier, since last year I tried to compromise with myself by proclaiming that I was lesbian, and I had no problem with that.  But I live in a household dominated by estrogen, where the oh-so-wishy-washy female mentality is in charge... and my mother being able to accept having a lesbian daughter, doesn't mean she can accept having her 'daughter' be her son. Unfortunatly, I think I've dug myself a hole by acting as a super-femme in the past to try and make up for my more masculine instincts-- I somehow doubt I'd be believed if I just came out and told my family (although my friends would probably not be surprised... you can be a whole different person with your peers). The fact that I'm not really athletic would be a point against the possibility, in my parents' opinion, and my introspective, artsy, intellectual personality is still a part of my masculine identity... which I suppose might comfort them, but on the other hand, I don't want my father to give me his 'you're going througha phase' speech, as he did when I told everyone I was lesbian (although, technically, he was right that time...).
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Buffy

Hey Judas,

Welcome to Susan's honey.

This is a great place to talk and learn from like minded peoples experiences.

Check out the forums and also the wiki and chat rooms.

There is a growing community of guy's here, which is good as it helps keep all us girls under control.

Welcome

Buffy
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jaded

hello and welcome to Susan's Judah let me introduce myself im jaded  im ftm and closeted as well hopefully not for long.
its a little different because i don't have a feminine bone in my body just today my mom mentioned to me at least 7 times that im not a boy THATS WHAT SHE THINKS!!!anyway i get where your coming from in my opinion we are all excellent actors for we have let allot of people believe we are someone we are  not .
but when it comes down to it the most important thing is to be true to yourself .i too come from a estrogen full home i know how it is .........anyway nice to meet you
take care
            jaded

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jaded

im sorry just saw your name is judas
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HelenW

Welcome and Hello, Judas.

Yeah, we all go through a lot of hoops to fit into other people's expectaions and when we begin to figure out that it ain't workin' those things may be held against us.

I found a gender specializing therapist who helped me past those things.  Also, just by bringing in an outside, objective, person who agrees with my self-diagnosis I have been able to deflect many of the ignorant proclamations others make about this condition.

I'm happy that you found Susan's.  I have received a great deal of knowledge and support here and I think that you will soon agree with me that we have a wonderful site here.  I'll be looking forward to reading more from your POV and I'm again happy to say,

WELCOME ! !  :)
helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

Southwestern New York trans support: http://www.southerntiertrans.org/
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Jillieann Rose

Hello Judas,
It is nice to meet you and welcome to Susan's.
I'm very fuzzy on early memories too. I'm working with a therapist to try and unlock those memories. Something that was very traumatic happened back than and I got to face it and than move on.
Anyway I'm glad you found this site.
If your look for friends and or information about gender issues this is the place.
Please read the site rules at:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.html if you haven't already.
Then check out the Wiki, with ton of info on the gender topics. Oh and check out our chat and links section too. Have a great read.

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Peggiann

Welcome Judas,

Just a thought...you may be surprised if your family were to stop and think at the over board behavior one displays trying to cover up what they are afraid to have anyone know... and they were to say "Wow, that explains it." It could happen that way you know. Their love for you could also be a very important factor for how the accept and support once one is out of the closet. Perparing or speculating for a reaction that may or may not happen could be a waste of precious time. The sooner one is out the sooner one can freely start living the way they want to.

As you read through some of these posts by others in similar situations as yours you'll see how some of them were very much surprised by those they loved's reaction.

I am Leah's S.O. Leah is a Transitioning M2F.

Welcome and I look forword to reading more of your posts.

Smiles,
Peggiann
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Luc

Hi Judas, another closeted FtM here, at least to my family... and I'll just say that pretty much what Jaded said about his femininity goes for myself as well. If you ever want to talk, or need support, or whatever, I'm here... my contact info is on my profile.

Rafe
"If you want to criticize my methods, fine. But you can keep your snide remarks to yourself, and while you're at it, stop criticizing my methods!"

Check out my blog at http://hormonaldivide.blogspot.com
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tinkerbell

Hi Judas and welcome to Susan's!

I'm happy you found us; as you can see, you will find many members in different stages of transition here.  Please feel free to explore the site as there is valuable information in each little corner.  Also get familiar with all the forums of the site, and visit the chat room and the wiki (our goldmine of information)...oh yes...I was forgetting...also take a sec to review the rules of the site ;).

Enjoy your stay and keep posting!

tinkerbell :icon_chick:
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Kismet

Hey dude,

Nice to meet another guy. The story's very similar to mine. I remember crying and throwing a fit when I discovered my breasts were developing. I remember hugging my plastic Jurassic Park velociraptor and asking him to do anything he could to keep me being a boy. He couldn't help, but I know he tried. ;)

Great to see you here.
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Judas

#10
First, sorry to the mods... I joined the forum while at 'work', with my mother hovering around the shop, so I was a little rushed. No excuse, I know, but I'll do better.  :angel:

Thanks for the welcomes, all. It's sort of refreshing-- I mean, you always get welcomes when you join a forum, but I've never introduced myself as Judas, so it's like a whole new thing. Anyway, you probably won't like me on longer acquaintance-- I'm sarcastic to my core, and that's how most of my aggressive behavior manifests... in the form of verbal whiplash. Yeah. Somehow, I doubt I'll get much trouble from my peers... mostly, they're a little afraid to get me angry, since I have access to monster-sized textbooks, and am well-versed in their judicious application to the back of a head (no concussions so far, at least...).

It's more my family I'm worried about, like I said. But, not being a very patient guy, I just gave up and told my mother tonight. Since I'm more comfortable in motion when I have to talk about something personal, we walked along the road for about two hours, both ways. I don't think she understands the position, although she says she does, but she's willing to let me 'pass' as male if that's what I want. We had some miscommunication in the beginning (she said I was defensive, I said I wasn't defensive, I was cautious; she said I was obviously feminine, I said I'd been putting on that act for years-- overall, I think I freaked her out), but in the end she just put it down to 'well, whatever, you're my kid, but it's your body', which makes me, if not happy, than at least a little closer to sane. Honestly, I think she's scared to make me depressed, since I was hospitalized for it about a year ago. So far I haven't gotten her to use to right gender pronouns (but hey, we only had this discussion a few hours ago), and I didn't even bring up the subject of my name-- I'll let her call me by my childhood nickname, which has a masculine spelling even if it's not how I identify... I think it'll make my transition easier for her to handle.

My kid sister, I have no idea how to approach. She's really impressionable, and she's always looked up to me and tried to emulate me. Ironically, in the last year she's the one who has been acting masculine (which actually put more pressure on me to be feminine, which sucked), so I guess she probably has some idea. We talk about video games, and what girl's we're into, and she hates me about half the time because I can't help but tease her, and overall I treat her more like a kid brother, but she acts like one, so it's all good. Obviously, though, if I'm gonna be passing I need to actually tell her.

We live with my grandmother, who is ancient and crazy, but we should be moving out soon, and honestly, I don't care what she (or the extended family in general, really) thinks about it. I wouldn't have any trouble telling them about it-- easy as pie, because I don't care about their reactions. But I'm being a sissy little coward when it comes to my father, and mom'll probably tell him before I do. It's just.... I mean, most of the time he thinks of me like a daughter, and it's dead obvious (and I did my best to make sure that was the only way he thought of me), but some of the time he treats me like... if not a son, then a very tomboy daughter; I've always enjoyed a pretty good relationship with my father, and I don't want that the change because I decided I couldn't keep pretending to be his 'little girl'. So, yeah, sissy coward = me.

Yeah, that was a rant... you'll discover I do that alot, but I don't do nearly as much actual talking (unless I'm being Bubble-Girl),so this is when I get it all out. Now, in replies:

Helen W-- I'm worried that a gender therapist would tell me I'm not a guy. I don't have early childhood memories, and that's what a lot of the therapists base their diagnoses on (or so I've gathered). Also, when I was in the hospital, they diagnosed me with bipolar... and I have to wonder if they're gonna call that the cause of my 'gender dysphoria'. Mom would like me to see one right off, but I think I'd rather have a little time to get back into my own 'mental skin', even if I don't have the right body. A lot of the super-femme things I did have become ingrained, and even though I cringe every time I do it, and it's a huge embarassment to my male ego, I still do some of the super-femme things (like posing... I knew a cheerleader in sixth grade who taught me to 'walk like a girl', and among these lessons was the 'at ease' position that makes me look like a runway model... it's a nice trick, if you want to seem super-femme, but once it becomes habit, it's hard to stop). Judas, as a guy, was pushed as far back as possible to allow for a flawless female performance, and I need to get to know myself again-- I think a therapist would just see me doing my super-femme routine out of habit, and tell me I was obviously a girl. Anyway, I'll obviously seek gender therapy eventually, but I want to live as Judas for a while first... unless you have ardent protests to the contrary, oh wise one.  ;D Girls know best about these things; and on that subject, what goes on inside a chick's skull? C'mon, gimme a hint-- I never know what they're thinking, and they know it, I swear.  :icon_shakefist:

Jaded-- yeah, man, don't worry about it. Judas is derived from Judah anyway-- you were closer than my mom may ever get.  ::) And I think it depends on your definition of feminine. I do a lot of acting, like you said, but inside my skull I'm an aggressive, territorial, over-confident guy (although I admit, I like fashion... just... men's fashion, when it's on me...)-- I just also do a lot of artsy things, because my female body is the least coordinated thing on the feild, and I kept getting run over in cleats. I needed a hobby, and writing/doodling kinda became the main option. I like to watch sports, and I think if I ever learned to move like a cohesive person instead of having to focus all of my attention of each body part to make it move the right way, I'd probably like to play a sport... swimming was the closest I ever got. Good full-body exercise. But I digress. I told you you'd hate me on longer acquaintance. :icon_blahblah:

Jillieann--
oh good, so I'm not completely crazy. I thought it might've been all the drugs my dad did in his teenage years, somehow transfered genetically.  :P If you ever manage to break that mental barrier, drop me a line. I'd like to know that it's even possible for a real person, and not just some statistic in a magazine.

Peggiann-- You make a point there, and I guess that's sort of how it happened with my mom. I don't know that she'll ever really think of me as Judas, but she's willing to accept that I do, and I guess that's a start. If she hasn't filled my dad in by tomorrow, I will... when I work up the courage. (sissy coward, sissy coward, sissy coward... come on, suck it up, boy.)

Kismet-- Ah ha! I love the raptors. Although, if you want to get technical (which I usually do) the Jurassic park raptors were more the size of Utahraptors... they just thought velociraptor sounded cooler (and they were right, so...). My toy of choice, at roughly age seven, was the red power ranger. My mom bought me the pink ranger, and I pretty much killed it (she was tortured to death and then lowered into a volcano... or... y'know, thrown against the wall and smashed into lots of tiny pieces), so she went back and got me to red one, and I had the thing for years. Wow, I had forgotten all the stuff I did with that thing. I vaguely recall ninjas in the back garden. Anyway, nice to meet you, and thanks for the accidental trip down memory lane.  ;)

Now I'm off to lurk on your forums, and haunt your chat.  :icon_archery: And in a side note, I love all the emoticons. They amuse me.

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HelenW

Quote from: JudasHelen W-- I'm worried that a gender therapist would tell me I'm not a guy. I don't have early childhood memories, and that's what a lot of the therapists base their diagnoses on (or so I've gathered). Also, when I was in the hospital, they diagnosed me with bipolar... and I have to wonder if they're gonna call that the cause of my 'gender dysphoria'. Mom would like me to see one right off, but I think I'd rather have a little time to get back into my own 'mental skin', even if I don't have the right body. A lot of the super-femme things I did have become ingrained, and even though I cringe every time I do it, and it's a huge embarassment to my male ego, I still do some of the super-femme things (like posing... I knew a cheerleader in sixth grade who taught me to 'walk like a girl', and among these lessons was the 'at ease' position that makes me look like a runway model... it's a nice trick, if you want to seem super-femme, but once it becomes habit, it's hard to stop). Judas, as a guy, was pushed as far back as possible to allow for a flawless female performance, and I need to get to know myself again-- I think a therapist would just see me doing my super-femme routine out of habit, and tell me I was obviously a girl.

Most regular therapists will base their ideas on the patient's memories, I suppose, which is why I specified a gender specialist.  As far as I know - I've read quite a bit about this and it's true in my case - being transsexual is a self-diagnosed condition.  A gender specialist will simply work on making sure that the dysphoria doesn't stem from something else.  Such a specialist would also be able to tell, and explain, the difference between gender role - what you do, or how you act in the role - and the interior gender identity.  I do things too that make me cringe inside, after all I've been internalizing my disguise for more than 50 years, LOL!  We all have things that we need to unlearn as we begin to present who we really are.  A gender specialist can hook you up to local transgender resources too and is required if you want to start safe hormone therapy.  My therapist has even helped with strategies on coming out to people that I would never have dreamed of by myself.  If you've been hospitalized for bipolar disorder you may have had less than desirable experiences with therapists so I can understand your reluctance, though.  b.t.w. - It is entirely possible that bipolar disorder can co-exist with GID - they are mutually exclusive, from what I understand.

I suggest, this is what I did before I started therapy, that you read and research as much as you can about the condition.  One excellent book that I heartily recommend is called "True Selves" and is written by Mildred Brown and Chloe Ramsey.  I lent my copy to my MD so I'm not sure about the spelling of Chloe's name, can't remember the publisher either.  It's a very well known book though - check out AMAZON (no pun intended ;D).  It is well written and is basically a primer about transsexualism geared towards non-professionals.  It sometimes comes across as a textbook but is very readable just the same.  Along with its other descriptons, it includes a section of what gender specialists do and their general approach to people who say they are transsexual.

If nothing else, though, keep reading and posting here at Susan's.  If the site proves as valuable to you as it has for me I'm sure you'll get alot of benefit from it.

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helen
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

My rarely updated blog: http://emelyes-kitchen.blogspot.com

Southwestern New York trans support: http://www.southerntiertrans.org/
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