Make up and wigs before transition and hormones?

[lisa_a]

Hi

I notice that CD's are way more through with their make up and such. I usually just use a skirt or a plain dress. It's like it is unnatural for me to do much with my looks to appear female. It's more I just try to fix smal things that I can to look more pretty. Since I don't have boobs, I don't even like to use a bra all that much, except I like that it improves the shape, but would much prefer real boobies. And dont use wigs.

I've always considered myself to have a womans brain, most everyone else have to.

So I wonder am I just a confused male. I dont consider myself a crossdresser, i dress girly 24/7 most of the time, and never have. Any TS that have been the same way. I never seem to find any people that can relate.

Here is a pic
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y259/irrs/->-bleeped-<-/4.jpg

[Janet_Girl]

I wear makeup to cover the beard shadow.  And because of hair loss, I use a hair system.  But I am  growing my own and taking Proscar.  I am hoping to at least be able to have my own hair,

Janet

[lisa_a]

I was that way for the longest time, But I finally made the connection in my mind I'm a girl. I started to relax and I am finding that I desire just a little more make up and more girly clothes than I already have.
I guess all I can say is, whatever suits you IS you. What's your taste? Just because you are a girl does not mean you're obligated to wear make up.
Do what suits you and pleases you.
You're only human, not all girls wear make up or even dress girl. You are your own unique soul.

Be open minded and search your feeling and your level of comfort as far as public view and take it from there.

We can talk any time! Welcome aboard.
Peace.

Thanks. I have a tons of clothes though(almost nothing male). But not much make up. Just a little for the eyes, skin and lips. But lots of skin products, to make it more healty. I dont have anyone to make myself really pretty for. But I also dont want to hide me. I want people to see me.

The main thing is I think that a lot of makeup does not internally make me feel better. You can say that I dont enjoy putting it on at all. But I have to, because else it will be very weird. Do CD's feel the same about this. Or is it mostly just fun?

I wear makeup to cover the beard shadow.  And because of hair loss, I use a hair system.  But I am  growing my own and taking Proscar.  I am hoping to at least be able to have my own hair,

This is similar to me. My hair is fine though, just a little bit soft, so it dont have so much volume. If I lost it I would use a hair system for sure. Mostly I am just not happy with they way hairdressers cut it. This summer I was on a trip to Servia, and in Nis I saw a beatyful salon, and thought I'd do my hair. I was dressed androgen-like either way. When I enter they tell me this is just for woman. I just say 'Ok,but I wouldnt mind', so I turn around to go. Then she say wait and go to talk to another woman and after a bit she say it is okay. She ask me how I want it, so I say, just a little, just want it more pretty. When I looked in the mirror afterwards I was so happy, it was the first time I've actually thought my hair looked nice. But I think it was more then that, that they accepted me, even though I was all ordinary with pants.

I wonder if CD's look at this the same as I do, or if it is different for them. Because I have never met any TG people that I have been aware of(just a very few I notice think more circular as I do), so I have never had anyone to compare to except females. And because the circumstances is so different that comparison also becomes troublesome. I usually identify best with troubled girls that also have problems difficulty with the external world.

[K8]

I think what suits you is you. 

I thought I was CD even though I'd always wanted to be a girl.  I tried girly things as a boy and got slapped down enough not to do much of that.  When I finally began coming to terms with all this I thought I could wear skirts and blouses and makeup and all that, but I live in a place where GGs almost never wear skirts (it's windy and cold most of the time) and little makeup (cowboy country).  When I thought I was CD, I would concentrate on the surface stuff - breasts, skirt, heels - but there's more to being a girl than clothes and makeup. 

A good haircut is great.  Men's haircuts are very straightforward; women's hair is cut to add volume and style.  (My hairdresser explained it to me as she was giving me my first women's cut, but I don't remember the details.)  If you can find a good stylist it will make a big difference to your presentation and feelings about yourself.  I now have a women's haircut, shaped nails, and wear just a little eye makeup but am still presenting male.

I haven't started hormones yet (soon, I hope).  I'm hoping they will soften my contours so that even with minimal makeup and pants I'll look like an old ugly (but nice) broad. 

- Kate

[Tristan]

I wore make up in junior high school. no wig though. i just grew my hair out enough to do somthing fem with it.

[Steffi]

I just don't have a feminine enough facial bone structure to be comfortable without any makeup at all though I wish I could do so. Since beginning RLE I do try to be a bit more subtle about it using softer colours and a lighter touch.
My make-up looks a lot more muted and natural later in the day though when it's had time to fade and die-down.
I've had long hair for the last 40 years so was never into wigs at all - they made me feel a total sham. The year before transition I had to have an operation to repair a lung, so had a bonehead haircut so that post-op I wouldn't be struggling to wash and dry long hair. I transitioned with the bonehead cut and so HAD to get a wig for a year.

I wear a girdle with slight hip and ass pads in too cos until I do get some fat down there, my shoulders are just too overpowering and my clothes don't hang right.

I HATE wearing all this crap, I really do but I need all the help I can get to pass as much as possible..... and after all, many gg's use stuff to shape and enhance.

These days a lot of gg's wear little makeup, jeans and flat shoes and I think it's kind of sad. Lots of the female role models go for this shapeless, stick-thin look as well which is completely beyond my understanding.
To me, a borderline anorexic in jeans and clumpy flat shoes is unfeminine and unattractive.
Perhaps it's just my age and the effect of growing up in the 50's and 60's, as elegance peaked and faded out and style became something the young created instead if followed.

[lisa_a]

hmm. So does this make me more TS or more CD? I probably live in a fantasy world though, and really should make myself more presentable. But my sense of individuality is strong, and I have specific opinions how I like to appear regardless of anything else but what I like. And I most always stick to that partly at least.

[K8]

TS or CD?  Those are just categories.  Back when I designed databases, I discovered very quickly that there is always something that doesn't fit into the boxes you've designated.  The boxes are useful for making sense of a disorderly world, but don't let them define you.

I've found that I need to talk to people about my issues.  When I live all in my head, I get off track.  Friends and willing listeners (counselor, doctor, minister, etc.) help us find our way through the minefield of life as someone who is different from society's expectations.

Good luck on your journey, Lisa.

- Kate

[Lyric]

It sounds like you have some self-doubt issues you need to discuss with a therapist. There certainly are plenty of TS people who don't get into makeup and fashion so much, just as there are plenty of women in general who do not. That said, as genetic males, we have special issues, like beard growth, facial structure, shoulder width and so forth with which to deal. To present ourselves as female, we do have to try a little harder, for the most part. Even if glam isn't your thing, it's a good idea to get the whole look together. G-girls don't have to, but nobody said life was fair.

[JENNIFER]

hmm. So does this make me more TS or more CD? I probably live in a fantasy world though, and really should make myself more presentable. But my sense of individuality is strong, and I have specific opinions how I like to appear regardless of anything else but what I like. And I most always stick to that partly at least.

Here is me. I have softened it up in photoshop. I guess what I am afraid of is to do to much, and stick out. The more natural I can appear the more people will relate to me. At least that is part of the idea. But if that 'natural' is disgusting for whatever reason, then that obviously don't work.

Lisa?  You are here on this site and talking with people that know how you feel.  That picture of you tells me that with the correct help and professional care, you can achieve anything you want from this situation.  Femaleness stems from your mindset, the clothes and make-up is simply cosmetic ( just ask Eddie Izzard ) but it is what you as a human being need to do to flourish in life that matters the most.

I have banged on about it before in other threads on this site but I say again that fighting this female within you will ultimately destroy you unless you act quickly.  The world has changed and people like us have an easier time than was though still hard enough but this community exists for good reason and you are now a part of it.

Please contact any of us directly if you wish, explore the site archives and most importantly, never feel alone. Be well and keep smiling.....Jennifer.