Femme ftms

[Walter]

I'm a femme sometimes but I still call myself FtM 

[nathanjude]

I don't know that'd I'd consider myself a femme guy, but I'm definitely not a "manly man". I don't enjoy watching sports, building things, or working on cars. That said, most of my bio-male friends aren't very "manly" either.

[Mr. Fox]

Ha ha, now I'm remembering my "masculine" stage in early high school.  I still wore nail polish, among other things.

[Vancha]

Hmm, a sort of difficult question.  While as a female I am never thought of as "butch" or anything of the sort, I'm definitely masculine.  As a man, I think I'm more like a metrosexual type.  I like to keep very clean, can spend quite a lot of time making sure my hair is the way I like it, and I like nice clothes.  Male clothes, but nice ones; I really adore European fashion.  So, I guess I could come off as a "gay guy" (actually pansexual/bisexual/etcetera) but not the stereotypical type.  Like a European gay guy!   

[rottingteeth]

I'm more comfortable about being femme now that I'm transitioning. As in, I feel right being a femme guy but not at all being a femme girl. 

I feel the same way. I'm pre-T, I paint my nails, wear makeup, cross-dress to a degree. I feel that I'd be way more comfortable and free with it if I were male-bodied. I mean, I would not wear a dress now or go to extreme, but I definitely would if I were born male (or will, after transition).

some bio-men do this...doesn't mean they aren't male. so why can't we?

Some of the most feminine people I know are men so, go figure, lol. To me, so much about femme and masculine behaviour I view as individual qualities without gendered attachment.

I agree, 100%.

[IanToxic]

lol I'm a very femme guy and proud! lol though i do have to pretend to be macho cause my therapist doesn't have much experience apparently...at least i dont think she does since she pulled out her book to see what to ask me xD  lol and i don't dress it either just because uhh still have curves and girly parts so it'd be noticeable besides! packing with my packer and wearing tight pants would just be horrifying! I'll give someone nightmares xD

[Silver]

Not really. Am I the only FTM here who doesn't consider himself femme?

I'm physically pretty feminine (and I judge that by the fact that I don't think I could pass without hormones) But I pretty much draw the line there. I don't really consider myself a gay guy and don't intend to be one once I transition.

[IanToxic]

No I doubt your the only one. Actually I think gay ftms are a minority within the ftm group lol not saying that all feminine ftms are gay of course ^.^

[kestin]

lol yeah, I think we're the slight minority in the entire ftm spectrum... that being said, beforehand in order to transition, people had to be the epitomes of masculinity or vice versa, femininity for mtfs. I think that some might repress their natural tendencies to deviate from the expected norm, so they're seen as their desired gender and thus, be able to transition.

Also, I think there's a difference between male femininity and female femininity just like female masculinity is different to male masculinity (judith halberstams book 'female masculinity' is a good read on this subject)

Apologies if my grammar is poor, its getting late down here XD

[Nero]

Not really. Am I the only FTM here who doesn't consider himself femme?

I'm physically pretty feminine (and I judge that by the fact that I don't think I could pass without hormones) But I pretty much draw the line there. I don't really consider myself a gay guy and don't intend to be one once I transition.

No, you're not alone. I'm no femme. I'm just vain.

[PolarBear]

Not really. Am I the only FTM here who doesn't consider himself femme?

I'm physically pretty feminine (and I judge that by the fact that I don't think I could pass without hormones) But I pretty much draw the line there. I don't really consider myself a gay guy and don't intend to be one once I transition.

I don't consider myself femme either. More as "just a regular guy"

[Miniar]

No, you're not alone. I'm no femme. I'm just vain.

Same here.

[Chamillion]

i wouldn't consider myself "femme" but i'm not super macho either. i love shopping and wear nice clothes and my mannerisms are somewhat feminine. but i don't think i'm femme, i just prefer to look nice haha

[JonasCarminis]

i think more bio guys would be more feminine if they had been raised female.  then they would have realized that some "girl" things aren't so bad!  haha  since i was raised female, that stupid "i have to pluck my eyebrows to look good" thing was impressed on me in high school.  it made me realize that i like it when my eyebrows are shaped and i don't have a unibrow.  LOL  so yes... i do pluck and trim my eyebrows.  i call it "manscaping"  take a look at some guys and see.  do they look like theyre walking around with caterpillars on their face?

[Jaimey]

Also, I think there's a difference between male femininity and female femininity just like female masculinity is different to male masculinity

That's a good point.  Most people who know me think I'm a lesbian because they are ignorant and think that all lesbians are butch (although, I wouldn't really call myself "butch"...but anyway).  I make for a masculine female and a slightly effeminate male.  Go figure. 

[Osiris]

I make for a masculine female and a slightly effeminate male.  Go figure. 

That's how I feel... Except I don't like being seen as a masculine female. I gotta get over that hang up of mine.

[Mr. Fox]

i think more bio guys would be more feminine if they had been raised female.  then they would have realized that some "girl" things aren't so bad!  haha  since i was raised female, that stupid "i have to pluck my eyebrows to look good" thing was impressed on me in high school.  it made me realize that i like it when my eyebrows are shaped and i don't have a unibrow.  LOL  so yes... i do pluck and trim my eyebrows.  i call it "manscaping"  take a look at some guys and see.  do they look like theyre walking around with caterpillars on their face?

Oh, God yes.  One of my friends has got the prime minister thing going on, and I just want to attack his face with tweezers.  Most people who pluck, unfortunately, go too far and/or have a crappy shape (Advice: draw the eyebrow you want first, then pluck all hairs whose roots are outside the line.)  A few rare individuals, like my French teacher, manage it well and have awesome eyebrows.  I don't pluck my eyebrows because you can't see them anyway.

[Jaimey]

Except I don't like being seen as a masculine female.

Me either.  

[Dante]

I agree with tekla.

As for myself, I am mostly masculine, but there are girly things I like. This is true with everyone. You have both masculine and feminine traits, whether you want them or not.

[icontact]

Oh, God yes.  One of my friends has got the prime minister thing going on, and I just want to attack his face with tweezers.  Most people who pluck, unfortunately, go too far and/or have a crappy shape (Advice: draw the eyebrow you want first, then pluck all hairs whose roots are outside the line.)  A few rare individuals, like my French teacher, manage it well and have awesome eyebrows.  I don't pluck my eyebrows because you can't see them anyway.

Eh, the reason men generally look down upon eyebrow plucking is because men usually have such thick eyebrows that it's almost impossible to pluck them, and still have them look natural. No matter how nice the shape, if they look plucked, they look bad.

Personally, I wouldn't mind doing it but my eyebrow hairs are so thin, you probably wouldn't see them at all if I plucked them. That and it's way too much upkeep. :-P