Is he in denial?

[heatherrose]

In another thread Jake Grimm posted this link...

http://thebeautybrains.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/06/muscles.jpg

My first reaction was, "Oh my God, how gross!"
I enjoy gawking at guys with awsome builds but
this guy has gone way over the top and is sliding
down the other side. What is he trying to prove?
Why would he push himself to such garrish extremes?
Then I thought back to my youth, when I realized
I had to "Man Up", I got involved in bodybuiling.
I engrossed myself in it to rid myself of the slightest
outward appearance of femininity. I regret to say
that I was successful. What if this individual pushed
himself to this point because of a struggle with GID.


What extremes have we all pushed ourselves to,
while we were in denial?

[Cindy]

That is so disgusting.
I feel like being sick.

How ccan anyone do that to their body. It has to be massive amounts of drugs sent into muscle groups. You cannot exercise to that.
Yuk.
Thaks Heather just lost my dinner

Love

Cindy James

BTW what is your truck(? Aussie slang) called it looks great.

CJ

[Genevieve Swann]

That's disgusting!

[Sandy]

Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (OCD) comes in many forms.  This appears to be one of them.

He probably is eating more steroids than food.  I would wager that his life expectancy is less than five years.

He may or may not be running away from GID.  But it is apparent that he has a problem of some sort that he is over compensating for.

I pity him.

-Sandy

[mina.magpie]

I've seen that pic before. Absolutely revolting.

In answer to the question of extremes in denial though, yeah, I went through a whole cycle of self destruction alternated with periods of running in my early 20's. I did alot of martial arts and weights at uni and injured myself pretty seriously in the process. Once I got out of uni I proceeded to wreck my career as a programmer, have a starter-marriage that lasted less than a year, wander the country for a while, and after crashing and burning I got on a plane and went to Taiwan for a year. There I did okay for a while, but yeah, couldn't stay happy, so I came back to ZA and wandered some more, almost became a monk, finally confronted my GID, went to the UK and started transition.

Mina.

[Linda]

What extremes have we all pushed ourselves to,
while we were in denial?

Hi Heatherrose,
I feel as though you're asking about actions or behavior, concious or unconcious a person with GID may have exercised  as a means to empower denial of ones self? I'm not in transition, (yet, she says knowingly), but I am trying to get it together so as to afford therapy, and move forward towards peace and happiness.

For me, my denial manifested itself over decades of extreme and dangerous alchohol and drug use. Also by living life precariously, "on the edge", in the name of fun and adventure, which was more likely a way to destroy myself so I could go out in "glory" doing "manly" things, alot of which were illicit, warranting incarceration if caught. I never got into the body-building thing, eww. I did labor intensive jobs amongst a rather motley crew of roughfians, wannabe ganstas, drug users and scofftlaws. I was even the foreman for 8 years, go figure.

18 months ago I left my last job after 12 years to relocate and "do manly things", purging a wardrobe which took most of my life to fashion. Now, a year and a half later, I have no good job to replace the one I had, (the one with a good pay-rate, marvelous benefits pack, vaca, sick time, etc.).

6 months ago I found Susans, related to so many stories of so many people that I couldn't deny myself to myself any longer, three months after that I told my girl. And she told two friends, and so on, and so on. Not really, but she told some family and a couple friends, (some with my permission). OMG, it's alive!! But, it is less stressful where I'm at than where I was, except I may lose my girl, [totally another thread]
I hope one day to reach a point where I can be me.

Sometimes I wonder, am I still in denial? Was I ever?


Linda

[VioletNight]

He is probably just getting ready to play baseball.

[MarySue]

I have no idea what's really going through that guy's head, but I'd be surprised if he was motivated by GID.

My amateur-shrink guess is that he's driven by the same demons (and body-image delusions) that cause girls to turn themselves into anorexic skeletons.

[heatherrose]

My amateur-shrink guess is that he's driven by the same demons (and body-image delusions) that cause girls to turn themselves into anorexic skeletons.

What mindjob that's gotta be. Imagine him looking in mirror
and seeing a pencil neck geek or maybe a scared little girl.

[Janet_Girl]

When I first saw it, I thought that can't real.  What would anyone do that?  But then again, why would anyone go thru SRS.

Janet

[myles]

Doesn't look real to me, but I could be wrong. I am not sure how that guy is suppose to walk more less function in any other way. Looks photoshopped.
Myles

[heatherrose]

I have seen videos of individuals who, through the use steriods,
have developed parts of their bodies to gargantuan proportions.
It is very likely that this pic is authentic.

[Lachlann]

It's photoshopped, guys. It's not real.

As someone who works closely with the program for almost 10 years, I can tell that it's fake and I could replicate it. Not only that, but I study anatomy and the human body, and it's extremely unlikely that steroids would make the muscles look exactly like that. The proportions are terribly unrealistic.

[Sandy]

It's photoshopped, guys. It's not real.

As someone who works closely with the program for almost 10 years, I can tell that it's fake and I could replicate it. Not only that, but I study anatomy and the human body, and it's extremely unlikely that steroids would make the muscles look exactly like that. The proportions are terribly unrealistic.

Darn!  I was going to see if he wanted a date...

-Sandy(His name must be Ben Grimm!)

[tekla]

My first reaction was, "Oh my God, how gross!"
I don't get it...
That is so disgusting.
I feel like being sick.
How can anyone do that to their body.
That's disgusting!
Absolutely revolting.


So, let me get this right.  When people say these kind of things about Trans people, they are 'phobic', but when you say them about someone else, well, that's just an opinion.

Something about 'being the change we want in the world' come to mind.  That, and 'minds are like parachutes, they only work when there open."

[Jay]

When ever I see pictures of guys like him all I think is I bet that is a sock, in his pants   If you want to look like that its fine by me.

Jay

[heatherrose]

 
What spured me to start this thread was...

I was pointing my finger at this guy and then I remembered people pointing fingers at me.
We ALL make assumptions about people without knowing them, from the bum on the off ramp
to the richest man in the world, without KNOWING their background, what
motivates/de-motivated them or what facades they have built to hide their own perceived flaws.
Believe it or not, some might JUDGE me to be judgmental (perish the thought)
Though I am honesty working on not being so much so. It might possibly be a defense mechanism
that I've delevoped to pre-emptively thwart personal attacks real or imagined.
So , here lay down on the couch and tell me what facades you have crafted into your own
personal fortess of solitude. Super Girl had one too....didn't she?

[Pariah]

Remind's me of the guy who took an entire beaker full Jeckyle's Potion in The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen.

Like a few of the wiser posters have stated, I don't think this has to do with GID or TG issues. There's a plethora of other reasons why this may have taken place.

Funny, I don't find it disgusting at all-I find i more of an oddity. Amazing how the body can be pushed-especially with drugs! If he is using drugs, that is...

[tekla]

Again, you need to be the change you want to see in the world.  You have no right to expect of others, what you ain't about to do yourself.

[heatherrose]

Third times a charm or strike three and your out.
Let's see if I can win one for the ol' Gipper.

I saw the picture. I thought it was gross.
I wondered what would make someone push
themselves to that extent. I postulated possibly,
maybe, perhaps, could it be possible that maybe
he was over compensating for possible GID.......

Alright dammit, he not seeking SRS, He'd look even
stranger with two more bumps and one less buldge
any dag nab ways! But I was a bodybuilder who was
using it to build a facade of masculinity to hide my
issues of GID. What extremes have Y'ALL put yourselves
through to show the WORLD that you were just as
manly as the next GUY,or manlyererer?