Would you rather be TS/TG or just plain "normal"?

[imaz]

Hehe!

I confess I enjoy being transgender, I like the transgressive, in between areas of life and to be perfectly frank I love it when people fancy me because of how I am.

Ok, this isn't PC for some as one mustn't enjoy the sexual side of things because of all that BS from Blanchard, Bailey and their fellow zombies, but I do. Nothing to be ashamed of surely? It's perfectly normal for everyone else, so why not for us?

Would I take being a normal cisgendered woman or man over who I am? No, I wouldn't, not least because I consider it a great blessing to be the way I am in that it has forced me to open my eyes and heart to the World and it's people and taken me to places I could only dream of. Alhamdulillah

[Mister]

I have to disagree.  I didn't spend time and money overhauling my life to forever be 'lesser' or 'other' than my cisgendered counterparts.  Outside of my physician, my girlfriend and my parents, I am not known otherwise.  I'd prefer to pass undetected than to be recognized and respected.

[Jaimey]

Hehe!

I confess I enjoy being transgender, I like the transgressive, in between areas of life and to be perfectly frank I love it when people fancy me because of how I am.

Ok, this isn't PC for some as one mustn't enjoy the sexual side of things because of all that BS from Blanchard, Bailey and their fellow zombies, but I do. Nothing to be ashamed of surely? It's perfectly normal for everyone else, so why not for us?

Would I take being a normal cisgendered woman or man over who I am? No, I wouldn't, not least because I consider it a great blessing to be the way I am in that it has forced me to open my eyes and heart to the World and it's people and taken me to places I could only dream of. Alhamdulillah

I agree with you!  I like being somewhat in between.  I still think of myself in male terms and I want to be addressed that way eventually.  BUT I think there's something...mystical and mysterious about it.  I like having a foot on both sides of the spectrum, so to speak.  I think it has given me an interesting outlook on life and a better understanding of the world.  I wouldn't trade it for anything (no matter what I say when I get frustrated ).

[placeholdername]

I have to disagree.  I didn't spend time and money overhauling my life to forever be 'lesser' or 'other' than my cisgendered counterparts.  Outside of my physician, my girlfriend and my parents, I am not known otherwise.  I'd prefer to pass undetected than to be recognized and respected.

Don't conflate 'lesser' with 'other' -- cisgender people are 'other' from other cisgender people as well.  My dad is 'other' from my mom.  Everyone is 'other'.

Personally I don't take pride in being 'trans' as a label, but I do take pride in the fact that it's possible to go from one to the other or somewhere in between.  To me it's not so much about identity as it is about ability.

[Mister]

Don't conflate 'lesser' with 'other' -- cisgender people are 'other' from other cisgender people as well.  My dad is 'other' from my mom.  Everyone is 'other'.

Personally I don't take pride in being 'trans' as a label, but I do take pride in the fact that it's possible to go from one to the other or somewhere in between.  To me it's not so much about identity as it is about ability.

Good point with 'other.'

As for identity vs. ability-  Do you mean ability as in, you had the available resources to transition or as in you take pride in the fact it's possible?

[imaz]

I have to disagree.  I didn't spend time and money overhauling my life to forever be 'lesser' or 'other' than my cisgendered counterparts.  Outside of my physician, my girlfriend and my parents, I am not known otherwise.  I'd prefer to pass undetected than to be recognized and respected.

There's a surprise! (probably means I'm right)
Post Merge: April 22, 2009, 06:35:05 PM

I agree with you!  I like being somewhat in between.  I still think of myself in male terms and I want to be addressed that way eventually.  BUT I think there's something...mystical and mysterious about it.  I like having a foot on both sides of the spectrum, so to speak.  I think it has given me an interesting outlook on life and a better understanding of the world.  I wouldn't trade it for anything (no matter what I say when I get frustrated ).

Thank you, for me it's magical, and quite frankly cool as ****

[Nicky]

I would not be who I am today if I was not TG.

I think things might be a little different for us non-binaries. If we are authentic to ourselves we probably don't have a defined place to fit in most societies. I take delight in gender queerness from the standpoint of it represents me, the me that is at odds with what is normal. It feels good. I too have a bit of a subversive side and do like challenging people's ideas of "the way things should be" or "what the natural way of things" is. It can be fun, but sometimes frustrating.

At the same time I find myself mourning that what seems as logical as breathing is viewed as alien and strange by the majority. What is 'normal' for me tends to be a fight against overwhelming odds. I also have some internalised phobias about being an "ugly ->-bleeped-<-" which eat at my self esteem.

All in all I don't consider myself superior but I get to transcend the male and female divide. I think this is marvellous. I don't know how I would feel if what I am became 'normal'. I don't think I would like it.

[Jaimey]

Thank you, for me it's magical, and quite frankly cool as ****

cool as ****.  I like that.    I'm cool as ****. 

I would not be who I am today if I was not TG.

I get to transcend the male and female divide. I think this is marvellous.

Nicely said.  It's a very freeing thing.

[imaz]

*** High Fives my sister Nicky ***

*** and Jaimey ***

[placeholdername]

Good point with 'other.'

As for identity vs. ability-  Do you mean ability as in, you had the available resources to transition or as in you take pride in the fact it's possible?

That it's possible -- whether I will or will not have the resources depends on what my parents think when they find out .  What I mean is more, I take pride in the fact that it's possible to make the change, rather than being proud in the state of needing to make the change/having needed to make the change.  But that's just my personal view, not one I think anyone else needs to adopt .

[FairyGirl]

Sigh. I've never been "normal", so I wouldn't even know what that's like. My dysphoria has always been a source of great sadness for me, so while I certainly respect anyone's decision as regards to what they wish to be, male, female, or somewhere in between, for myself I would simply prefer to be female and be done with it. Interesting topic!

[Mister]

There's a surprise! (probably means I'm right)

I'm sorry?

[imaz]

Sigh. I've never been "normal", so I wouldn't even know what that's like. My dysphoria has always been a source of great sadness for me, so while I certainly respect anyone's decision as regards to what they wish to be, male, female, or somewhere in between, for myself I would simply prefer to be female and be done with it. Interesting topic!

Merci Mademoiselle
Post Merge: April 22, 2009, 06:42:49 PM

I'm sorry?

No need to be sorry, why the guilt?

[Mister]

Merci Mademoiselle
Post Merge: April 22, 2009, 06:42:49 PM
No need to be sorry, why the guilt?

I don't understand what you meant.

[imaz]

I don't understand what you meant.

Fairly obvious if you just give it a little thought... An intelligent man like yourself, who thinks for himself as his own signature proudly states...

[Jaimey]

***highfivesback***  ...you make me giggle...heheh.    it did take me a second though...(so so very tired...I was up 23 hours yesterday working on papers)

[Mister]

Fairly obvious if you just give it a little thought... An intelligent man like yourself, who thinks for himself as his own signature proudly states...

Oh yes, being cryptic is always so clear. 

[imaz]

***highfivesback***  ...you make me giggle...heheh.    it did take me a second though...(so so very tired...I was up 23 hours yesterday working on papers)

Thanks Jaimey, I'm fed up with everyone being so uptight and po-faced about all this gender business. Let's all just make the most of it and enjoy ourselves

No point in being miserable when there are friends to be made, good times, laughs, and hopefully plenty of sex!
Post Merge: April 22, 2009, 06:54:06 PM

Oh yes, being cryptic is always so clear.

Stop being so boring and ruining my thread...

Haven't you got anything else better to do?

[Mr. Fox]

Although being transsexual is not a bed of roses (duh), it has made me a better person in probably more ways than I can describe.  It's made me more freethinking, independent, strong, open-minded, etc.  Discovering this helped me to start questioning my beliefs and and society; realizing it was the cataclyst (I hope that's the right word) that started me on my journey of self-discovering.  I also must admit I revel in being "other."  If I was heterosexual and cisgendered, or maybe even just one of those, I'd feel too normal.  My main regrets are a little bit of loss of experiences I would have liked to have (Boy Scouts, Men's Choir; overall, I think a male childhood would have more stifling) and body parts that will never be right, but that's a small price to pay for being a better person.

[imaz]

Nice one Adrian, respect