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I might be moving to Canada, but not cause I want to

Started by Miniar, May 28, 2009, 12:42:10 PM

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NicholeW.

Just curious, Min, is the procedure one that's parliamentary or one that's been procedurally done by a ministry?

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Miniar




"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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NicholeW.

Quote from: Miniar on May 29, 2009, 07:41:57 AM
it's beurocratic....

In which case perhaps a good darned airing of the procedure publically might not be a bad way to have it changed? :)
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Constance

I'm just completely amazed by this. It doesn't make any sense to me.

I hope that everything works out for you, Miniar.

Julie Marie

So they can remove your residency rights if you aren't gainfully employed? 

Is your rent free status paid for by the government or are you living with family/friends? 

Once they remove your residency rights does that mean they can deport you or otherwise force you to leave the country?

I'm still blown away by this!  Min, you have to put up a fight if they are trying to kick you out of your country just because you don't have a job!  Here in the US, the media would have a field day with this.

Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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Miniar

Apparently they can remove my residency.
I'm living in my mom's house, doing maintenance instead of paying rent.
I'm still an Icelandic citizen so I can live here as long as I want to, I just loose my legal residency and with it any rights to any gov. supports.

They're not kicking me out, just listing me as "living abroad"




"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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NicholeW.

And listing you as "living abroad" lowers the statistical occurrence of "unemployment" and ups by that much the "median income" of the country.

I thought the USA was bad about finagling statistics! Wait'll the Feds here hear about this. The poverty rate here will drop to zip as all the "poor people" won't live in-country any more!

This is just terribly sad and duplicitous.


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lisagurl

QuoteAn individual who moves away from Iceland and abandons his/her legal domicile should report this to the municipality where he/she lives, prior to moving away.  It is also necessary to report it if the individual plans on residing in a foreign country.

It seems that you need to keep the government informed of you legal domicile or they think you are gone.
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Miniar

Quote from: lisagurl on May 29, 2009, 12:06:38 PM
It seems that you need to keep the government informed of you legal domicile or they think you are gone.

I've lived here, in my legal residency, for two whole years solid. I haven't gone anywhere for any substantial time since I got here, not even to another Icelandic town.
I've had my legal domicile here for all of those two years.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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tekla

Very interesting.  A couple months ago you disagreed with me about how bad Iceland's financial situation is, and how that nation is in for a world of hurt.  And this - much like California shutting down government offices every other Friday (thus cutting about a months salary for all those workers) or threatening to shut down 80% of the public parks - is but one indication of just how bad it is. 

Call it good, bad, horrid or whatever, the real issue here is: How are you going to support yourself independent from The State, cause I'm sure Canada is not going to want to foot the bill either.  It is interesting to redefine 'citizen' as someone who contributes to the whole.  Used to be, like in Roman times, you could not be a citizen until after you did your years in the Legion, that citizenship was an earned privileged, not some sort of acquired right.
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lisagurl

I can not find any case such as yours, it might have some thing to do with your marriage to a foreigner who has no job. Then getting a job is not easy with a ink on the neck.
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tekla

Yeah Lisa that might be it, married to a foreign national who does not have a job might have something to do with it, as 'he' no doubt is considered 'the head of household.'
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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Miniar

Quote from: tekla on May 29, 2009, 07:54:39 PM
Very interesting.  A couple months ago you disagreed with me about how bad Iceland's financial situation is

Actually, I disagreed that there was any point in rolling on the floor screaming "the world is over".
Sun still comes up in the morning.
Kids still gotta eat.
So, we all still just gotta put one foot in front of the other.
_

And this is not because of my husband.
This much I've verified as of yet.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Michelle.

Min',

Does "living rent free" have anything todo with this? Does the government interept your not having a rental contract, mortgage, or home ownership as a sign that you have moved out of Iceland?

Hopefully the confussion of your situation will be settled by the middle part of next week.

Best of luck to you and your family...Mich'.
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Miniar

It appears that the only reason for this is the "taxable income".



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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lisagurl

Quote from: Miniar on May 30, 2009, 06:31:08 AM
It appears that the only reason for this is the "taxable income".

In the U.S. all support is considered income and must be filed on taxes. It is deductible for the ex. If the ex deducts it will show up as income for you.
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Miniar

Which would be relevant if I was in the u.s... which I'm not



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Lori

I sure hope everything works out for you. I guess I just want to "subscribe" to your thread.
"In my world, everybody is a pony and they all eat rainbows and poop butterflies!"


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Miniar

Quick Update -

Mom's gotten her personal attorney, that has been working with her and her hubby regarding their business, in on the whole "goings on".

I'll be sending him all my documents, interactions and etc, and he'll be helping me out with this.

SO..
I'm in good hands.

And worst case scenario being "moving to Canada" ain't so bad, so I'm good in general.

Stress is still causing me pain and stuff ofcourse, but what else is to be expected from a fibromyalgic person.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Alyssa M.

Quote from: Nichole on May 29, 2009, 11:13:26 AM
And listing you as "living abroad" lowers the statistical occurrence of "unemployment" and ups by that much the "median income" of the country.

I thought the USA was bad about finagling statistics! Wait'll the Feds here hear about this. The poverty rate here will drop to zip as all the "poor people" won't live in-country any more!

This is just terribly sad and duplicitous.

I thought all the poor people in America already didn't live here, or at least about 12 million of them ...
All changes, even the most longed for, have their melancholy; for what we leave behind us is a part of ourselves; we must die to one life before we can enter another.

   - Anatole France
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