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Can hormones change your nose form?

Started by Shelina, June 03, 2009, 12:32:21 PM

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Shelina

Putting the bone part aside which cannot be altered no matter what, can it change the flesh part, size and form of your nose?
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Mister

Nope.  Most of the 'flesh part' is cartilage and isn't going to change unless you get a rhinoplasty.
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christene

depends I guess, I have noticed change where my nostrils are, a little "plumper"
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Suzy

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Janet_Girl

In a word, No.  But that is what rhinoplasty is for.

Janet
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Michelle.

Quote from: Shelina on June 03, 2009, 12:32:21 PM
Putting the bone part aside which cannot be altered no matter what,

"Bone" issues are addressed thru Facial Feminisation Surgery (FFS).

Basic for just about all of us is the aforementioned rhinoplasty, beyond that a good FFS surgeon can work wonders. Even miracles.

HRT, good make-up techniques, hair style and a nip tuck or two take time. Notice that I listed going under the knife last.

Mich'
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Vancha

I thought cartilage, such as in the ears and nose, grew throughout a person's lifespan.  Although I doubt that estrogen would change a woman's nose shape, could it not be possible that Testosterone, in female to male transsexuals, would change the size and shape of the nose, insofar as being more "masculine"?  After all, those changes do occur through puberty in young males, and also throughout life in everyone.
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Ender

Quote from: Adrian on June 27, 2009, 12:55:12 AM
I thought cartilage, such as in the ears and nose, grew throughout a person's lifespan.  Although I doubt that estrogen would change a woman's nose shape, could it not be possible that Testosterone, in female to male transsexuals, would change the size and shape of the nose, insofar as being more "masculine"?  After all, those changes do occur through puberty in young males, and also throughout life in everyone.

On T, my nose is wider.  Most definitely.  Pre-T on left, 5 months on right.

"Be it life or death, we crave only reality"  -Thoreau
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finewine

Quote from: Adrian on June 27, 2009, 12:55:12 AM
I thought cartilage, such as in the ears and nose, grew throughout a person's lifespan.  [...]

Nope, the reason they look larger on the elderly is because of the relative dehydration and reduction of meaty tissue on the face.  The opposite of which is why...

Quote from: Eryk on July 05, 2009, 12:47:27 AM
On T, my nose is wider.  Most definitely.  Pre-T on left, 5 months on right.

...Eryk's nose looks wider (note his entire upper body and face is fleshier).  This has nothing to do with bone/cartilage change.
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Lori

Quote from: finewine on July 05, 2009, 01:10:42 AM

...Eryk's nose looks wider (note his entire upper body and face is fleshier).  This has nothing to do with bone/cartilage change.

So wouldn't it stand to reason that when on E, the nose becomes less fleshier? Ive seen a lot of before and after pics and I can notice a small subtle difference in noses on MTF's. I think the changes on FTM's is bigger but still...
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finewine

Quote from: Lori on July 05, 2009, 07:55:56 AM
So wouldn't it stand to reason that when on E, the nose becomes less fleshier? Ive seen a lot of before and after pics and I can notice a small subtle difference in noses on MTF's. I think the changes on FTM's is bigger but still...

Not quite - the presence of one phenomenon doesn't necessarily predicate the inverse.  However, you are correct in that the distribution and storage of fats does differ.  Females deposit fat in different places and shallower than males - the hormone regimen will influence this (so yes, on E you'll get chicken wings, hips & buttocks, on T you'll get a fleshier face and fat is stored deeper in the abdomen ... eventually causing a pot belly).  Of course I'm generalizing - individual variation will occur.
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Naturally Blonde

Quote from: Shelina on June 03, 2009, 12:32:21 PM
Putting the bone part aside which cannot be altered no matter what, can it change the flesh part, size and form of your nose?

No!
Living in the real world, not a fantasy
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Cindy

I agree that No is the answer, with a caveat as Eryck shows. On T and on E your fat distribution will change, and your muscle tone will change. These are independent variables with diet and excercise regime both having a strong influence. So, if you change your body shape or your facial shape due to muscle and fat deposit or removal, your features will change. No you may not have gotten a bigger or smaller nose but your facial features have changed and that's what makes your nose look different.

Actors may this by losing massive amounts of weight (who was the last Batman and see his previous movie and compare facial expression).

Your bone structure will not change, unless you transition before puberty hits, (still regret that I tried this and failed to convince M&D), but your fat and muscle distribution will affect how you look.

If you want to alter bone structure you need a surgeons grinding wheel, hammer and crowbar.

MTCW Cindy
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Myself

Probably not the cartilage but it can change the skin appearance, texture, softness and maybe even color (probably!).

The cartilage AND BONES can all be changed, by surgeries.

The "can't be changed no matter what" phrase is really getting old and tiring, most definitely incorrect too.
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Autumn

Quote from: michellesofl on June 03, 2009, 05:52:38 PM
"Bone" issues are addressed thru Facial Feminisation Surgery (FFS).

Basic for just about all of us is the aforementioned rhinoplasty, beyond that a good FFS surgeon can work wonders. Even miracles.

HRT, good make-up techniques, hair style and a nip tuck or two take time. Notice that I listed going under the knife last.

Mich'

The only thing I really dislike about my face (besides the squared and uneven jaw lines) is that my nose sticks out to east jesus. I just took a picture last night that I think is really, really cute but oh my god I could blind people with my schnoz. Stupid profile shots.  :embarrassed:

At least nose jobs are one of the oldest and most popular cosmetic surgeries. Of course, they still get botched...
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SarahFaceDoom

Quote from: finewine on July 05, 2009, 08:16:40 AM
on E you'll get chicken wings

Huh?  I don't think I've gotten these yet.  Where will they grow?
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finewine

Quote from: SarahFaceDoom on July 27, 2009, 03:01:25 AM
Huh?  I don't think I've gotten these yet.  Where will they grow?

Oh sorry, I should clarify "chicken wings" to mean the fatty deposit around the underside of the arms that, with *age*, can sag...for an extreme example:

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Monique Martinez

The skin on my nose has always been red and I dislike having to use so much make-up to cover it. the make up soaks in before long so for me it's an issue. I was hoping my skin tone would become less red over time (with estrogen). Not really a question of form but skin tone :P
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Julie Marie

There's a time in one's life when hormones have a dramatic effect, before the body has stopped growing.  Taking E or T at the age 12 will have a totally different effect than taking it when you are 42 or 52.

What results you experience depends on your DNA and at what age you begin hormone therapy.

Julie
When you judge others, you do not define them, you define yourself.
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sweetstars

Trans women, not really.
Trans men, yes, absolutely, the nose will start to gain some mass if you transition in your twenties. 
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