Beware of beards in women's bathrooms

[Natasha]

Beware of beards in women's bathrooms

http://www.alaskadispatch.com/tundra-talk/politics/1208-beware-of-beards-in-womens-bathrooms
Andrew Halcro

OPINION: It has been nothing more than a coldly calculated conspiracy by Hollywood liberals to keep a heterosexual brother ignorant. In short; my delicate sensibilities about men, fashion and motive have been shattered.

The current public debate over the proposed ordinance sponsored by Anchorage Assembly members to prohibit discrimination based on sexual orientation has spawned one argument that is a direct assault on existing beliefs perpetrated by the entertainment industry about men who dress in women's clothes.

[tekla]

What an ignorant piece of crap.  This sentence:
Anyone who has visited the inside of a public men's restroom absent a hazardous materials suit knows they're disgusting enough to make even the most manly man consider donning some Donna Karan in hopes of finding a cleaner environment behind door number two.

I got news for you, you've never seen what a bunch of entitled women do to a bathroom do you?

[NicholeW.]

I got news for you, you've never seen what a bunch of entitled women do to a bathroom do you?

Yes, I see it regularly and it ain't pretty! LOL!! But it's been a very long while since I've seen the inside of a men's. Not all were open sewers, but some were. The women's tend to be the same: some filthy, others neat.

I presume the men's are the same way?

[tekla]

In some sort of strange reversal of fortune deal it occurs to me on a regular basis (I have to go in and fix things so I'm in those rooms often) that poor women and rich guys tend to leave the bathrooms nice, while poor guys and rich girls make the mess.  Not sure why.

[NicholeW.]

I have to concur that the more posh the setting, unless it's one of those really high-end department stores, where they apparently have the auto-servo robots ensconced in the wall tile work that come out as soon as the stall's empty and within 30 seconds have it spotless again, that you are spot-on as far as women are concerned.

Apparently wealthier women are used to dropping a lot of bits of paper or loads of paper on the toilet floor, hovering over their spotless toilets and pissing all over the floor and seat, and not flushing toilet when they do manage to hit the bowl, more than are less wealthy women. *shrug*

Nice to know the men are reversed actually. Leaves some room for us less-wealthy women to imagine being the object of desire for some wealthy gent when he discovers we know how to keep the toilet clean! LOL!!

O, the article? I actually thought the guy was pretty sane once he removed himself from the toilets to the rates of incidence of the fearful possibilities that lurk with transwomen and others using a women's room.

[Genevieve Swann]

Concerning Tekla's comment: When in high school I worked several summers at a KOA and cleaning the bathrooms was part of my job. Some teenage girls are the most disgusting, unsanitarty,filthy animals on earth. Grafiti on the walls with their own feces. YUK!

[Suzy]

In some sort of strange reversal of fortune deal it occurs to me on a regular basis (I have to go in and fix things so I'm in those rooms often) that poor women and rich guys tend to leave the bathrooms nice, while poor guys and rich girls make the mess.  Not sure why.

I have noticed somewhat the opposite.  In nicer places, men behave better and aim before they shoot and women have their nice lounges.  In crummy places, you don't want to touch the walls or anything connected top them in a men's room, though the condition of the women's is a crap shoot (pardon the pun).  However, the dirtiest rest rooms anywhere any time are when women decide to be slobs!  No excuse for either, and I am not sure I understand it because women have to do it intentionally.  Men can do it just by being careless.

Kristi

[tekla]

Plus I'm doing this in places that serve lots and lots of alcohol, and often have people on other things too.  That does not help.

[Ms Jessica]

Not that I'm trying to pick a fight or anything, but the article was generally positive about supporting nondiscrimination laws for sexual orientation (the particular issue being considered by the Anchorage Assembly).  The fact that the author imbued his writing with a bit of campy humor indicated to me that he wasn't buying the ultra-conservative argument that when you pass such laws you have to worry about a bunch of perverts dressing up like women to use the ladies' room. 

Ignorance about the cleanliness of ladies' rooms aside, he does point out that no other state that refuses to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation has problems so why should they? 
He might not be a trans-advocate but at least he's got a measure of common sense.  I'd happily settle for a few more people like that in the world. 

[lisagurl]

The most puzzling womens bathroom was in Tokyo, it was kind of a pit you squatted over.

[RebeccaFog]

The most puzzling womens bathroom was in Tokyo, it was kind of a pit you squatted over.

That must be fun for old folks with weak knees

[Steph]

I've experienced to good the bad and the ugly.  Indeed there are some disgusting examples out there, but on the other hand during my time in Europe I encountered Loos that nothing less than pristine.

Is the Bog a North American issue???

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[Julie Marie]

You can't fault the author for his ignorance about the state of women's bathrooms if he's never been in one.  And, unless he frequents only the upper crust women's bathrooms that have someone cleaning them full time, I think it's safe to say he's a stranger to women's bathrooms.

That being the case, it makes it even more refreshing to see someone take the 'much ado about nothing' attitude regarding a subject that historically instills intense fear in the phobes of this world.  I'd like to see more of talk like this.

Julie