Is Obama's election a sign of victory over racism in America?

[tekla]

I'm lying about working or about the people I work with?  Or perhaps the people I graduated HS and college with?  Some of the hardest working people I know grew up on the wrong side of town - somehow its the rich kids who think that wearing the right clothes and possessing a unique sense of entitlement is enough.

[tekla]

I would assume that once they move past being reasonably successful and make it to really successful they find better friends.

[Mister]

Funny, I only notice Neanderthals when their knuckles drag on the ground and they attempt to communicate in monosyllabic grunts.

[Sigma Prime]

I'm lying about working or about the people I work with?

Probably both.

Some of the hardest working people I know grew up on the wrong side of town

The hardest-working people I know are barely aware of the economic standing of their own families. They are highly introverted workaholics, and I admire them deeply.

somehow its the rich kids who think that wearing the right clothes and possessing a unique sense of entitlement is enough.

The rich kids I know prefer jeans and tees, and they don't seem to believe in bathing. They don't have to. If you are highly capable in a certain field, nobody really cares how you are dressed.
Post Merge: July 09, 2009, 11:58:01 AM

Funny, I only notice Neanderthals when their knuckles drag on the ground and they attempt to communicate in monosyllabic grunts.

Those are the rich kids.
Post Merge: July 09, 2009, 01:29:42 PM

I would assume that once they move past being reasonably successful and make it to really successful they find better friends.

Tekla, my views on the subject actually come from the black people that I attend college with. Honestly, how long is it going to take for you to pick up on this? The problems in the black community today actually are based primarily on their self-perception. Self-perception has a much larger effect on a person than any other factor in whether or not they become successful adults. The white people aren't keeping the black people down anymore. The black people are keeping the black people down. When their collective attitude changes, their lot in life will change accordingly. There is really no such thing as race. It is a social construct, usually self-imposed to a large degree, and it is really a very harmful one in the case of black people.

[lisagurl]

Yes, I am.

Perhaps a wider exposer to more classes of people would change your attitude.  In the higher educated ranges there is a lot less distinction in color of skin.
Post Merge: July 09, 2009, 01:56:58 PM

my views on the subject actually come from the black people that I attend college with.

I take it you do not go to Harvard.

[Sigma Prime]

Perhaps a wider exposer to more classes of people would change your attitude.

Lisa, given the fact that I got my opinions on this subject from educated black people in the first place, I doubt that my opinions are going to change very much as a result of speaking to a bunch educated black people. I'd just hear more of the same.

In the higher educated ranges there is a lot less distinction in color of skin.

That shows how much you know. About a third of my classmates are Asiatic.

I take it you do not go to Harvard.

No, I do not. In fact, we don't have a law school at all.

[lisagurl]

As with Oriental, the use of Asiatic in referring to the peoples and cultures of Asia sounds conspicuously dated in contemporary American English, tending to evoke the prejudicial and offensive stereotypes of an earlier era. The preferred ethnic term is now clearly Asian. In most other contexts, however, as in Asiatic Russia or the Asiatic elephant, the term remains a neutral geographic descriptor that need not automatically be replaced with Asian.

I would consider a different school.

[Sigma Prime]

As with Oriental, the use of Asiatic in referring to the peoples and cultures of Asia sounds conspicuously dated in contemporary American English, tending to evoke the prejudicial and offensive stereotypes of an earlier era.

Lisa, you can avoid being accused of plagiarism by taking care to cite your sources. I understand that this probably falls under the context of fair use, but it is very crass to copy and paste text from an online dictionary without clearly indicating that you are not using your own words. It makes you look very phony.

Lisa, what you are engaging in right now is called character assassination, and it is highly, highly dishonest. It does not make you sound more believable. It just makes you look very phony.

I have a habit of using the term "asiatic" to clearly denote that I am referring to people who have the appearance of being Asian. A lot of people who come from the Asian continent don't look very Asian at all, so I tend to believe that it is more appropriate to use a different term to denote people who simply have the appearance of having Asian ancestry.

I would consider a different school.

No, you just want me to align my views with yours, and you are willing to use any fraudulant means you think you can get away with in order to bully me into doing so. You are a phony, Lisa. You are a phony and a fraud.

[tekla]

The hardest-working people I know are barely aware of the economic standing of their own families.

I find this all but impossible to even consider. 

introverted workaholics, and I admire them deeply.

Odd that you would admire introverted persons, most success comes, at least in part, from success in dealing with other people regardless of skill level.

If you are highly capable in a certain field, nobody really cares how you are dressed.
The whole dressed for success deal passed you by eh?  People do care about such things, at the very least you should be dressed like you know what you are doing and why - in the sense that people who would show up to work with me in dress shoes obviously don't know what they are going to be asked to do.  We have several dress codes for work, depending on the gig, ranging from opera/symphony, full dress formal, to rock concerts, which oddly enough have their own informal code.

[lisagurl]

Lisa. You are a phony and a fraud.

You had no trouble understanding it was not my words I would hardly call that fraud.

Getting caught at discrimination is OK we all discriminate to a certain degree. Schools that teach only multicultural studies miss the rich experiences of life.

[tekla]

As someone living in the midst of one of the largest Asian/Pacific Island populations in the world outside of Asia, I must confess I've never heard any use of the world Asiatic in any sense outside of geography. I've never heard any of those groups use that word in reference to themselves. NEVER.

[Sigma Prime]

Getting caught at discrimination is OK we all discriminate to a certain degree.

You haven't "caught" me at anything, Lisa. You are engaging in deliberate character assassination. It shows you're a phony, and you don't have the guts to admit it.

[Nero]

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