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A plea to young trans people

Started by GinaDouglas, June 29, 2009, 03:59:45 PM

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GinaDouglas

It was a documentary on the African-American chemist Percy Julian that got me started thinking about this.  Percy Julian was born in Alabama in 1899.  His parents sent him to DePauw University in Indiana.  He wasn't allowed to live in the dorms, and stayed in a boarding house where the owner refused to feed him.  At first he took his meals in the one diner in town that would serve him, but later got a job cleaning a frat house, where they let him sleep in the basement and gave him meals.  He graduated first in his class, but couldn't gain admittance to graduate school.  It took him three years of teaching at a black college before he got admitted to a Masters program at Harvard, but he was not allowed to pursue a PhD there.  He eventually obtained his PhD in Austria. 

Despite having made some important discoveries and publishing several papers, he had a great deal of trouble finding employment.  In one letter, he wrote to his sister that it was always the same story.  "They never had a black chemist working there, and are worried about how it will go."  At one point, he had a job offer rescinded, because there was a town ordinance against having black people stay in the town overnight.  Despite these difficulties, Percy Julian went on to become one of the important research chemists of all time, the first African-American chemist inducted into the National Academy of Science, and the second African-American.

Although Julian made many important discoveries, which led to thousands of useful and life-saving products; perhaps ironically, he discovered the first large-scale process by which estrogen and progesterone could be economically synthesized from soy beans.

Percy Julian's experiences with discrimination resonate with the experiences of trans people in more recent history.  Particularly the idea that while the bosses and hiring managers weren't particularly prejudiced against Julian, they feared how it would impact on the organization, to bring in someone so different from the other employees.

Here we are today, with seeming freedom and seeming equality; but second class citizens, particularly in our medical treatment.  For one thing, those of us who are male-to-female generally use Spiro, which is not a drug made for the purpose we use it for.  Nobody is trying to make a better drug for us, because we are too small a market.  Aromatase, a natural enzyme that converts testosterone into estrogen, would undoubtedly be a better treatment for our purposes.  But there is no economic incentive for anyone to do research on how to synthesize Aromatase.

This is only one example of how trans people are the red-headed step-children of scientific study and medical treatment.  African-American science students today are generally unaware of the struggles of their predecessors, who made their studies possible.  When I read posts from young trans people, who are in college, and are more concerned with how to find a bathing suit that will let them go swimming with their friends, it strikes a chord.  I don't know how many people have seen the recurring skit on Mad TV, where the old-time Civil Rights activist interviews the daughter of a deceased Civil Rights activist; and the daughter is all caught up in the modern world, and has no clue about the old struggles.

I couldn't have gone to college as a woman.  Young trans people, pay it forward.  Use this opportunity that you have to study biology, chemistry, psychology and medicine.  Use your knowledge to do the work that will benefit people like you.  Look at how much impact one person, Marcie Bowers, has had by doing this.  If a dozen, or a score, or a hundred young trans people make a concerted effort to pay it forward – think of the difference you could make.
It's easier to change your sex and gender in Iran, than it is in the United States.  Way easier.

Please read my novel, Dragonfly and the Pack of Three, available on Amazon - and encourage your local library to buy it too! We need realistic portrayals of trans people in literature, for all our sakes
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Renate

I agree with the sentiments above.

Quote from: GinaDouglas on June 29, 2009, 03:59:45 PM
... those of us who are male-to-female generally use Spiro, which is not a drug made for the purpose we use it for. Nobody is trying to make a better drug for us, because we are too small a market.

There already is a better anti-androgen, cyproterone acetate. The fact that it is widely used elsewhere but not FDA approved for use in the US goes back to the too small a market argument.
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Just Kate

I am a strong believer in the principles defined above, and thank you for stating them so.  Though I might not transition, I hope to "pay it forward" as well to help the next generation of people who struggle with GID to have a little less difficulty doing so.  I hope that what I learn will inspire the next generation to continue in their research of this disorder.
Ill no longer be defined by my condition. From now on, I'm just, Kate.

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K8

I agree.  When first talking to my minister about this, I was feeling sorry for myself and said it would be easier to be gay.  She said that's because everyone either knows someone who is gay or knows of someone gay, but they don't know someone trans.  (Or don't know that they know someone trans.)  Since then, I have seen my coming out and transitioning in public view to be a form of social action.  I may not invent a new drug, but I am educating those around me.  I am helping to make being TG commonplace.

Yes, if we can contribute to the process for the benefit of those who follow, great.  But each of us who is out and about as trans is making it easier for those who follow, just as each of those who came before have made it easier for us.  I can transition to my true self only because of the countless people before me - famous and not-famous.  And I thank them for that. :eusa_clap:

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Shazny2010

You know what...I got a B in Biology sophomore year of high school!! I was not sure what I want to do after high school. I think I might look into this.
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tekla

Young trans people, pay it forward.  Use this opportunity that you have to study biology, chemistry, psychology and medicine.

There is no reason that trans persons should not have real degrees.  Nor, by their being trans, do they have to study that either.  Get a job.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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GinaDouglas

The fields I listed are all real degrees, with good job prospects.  What I am saying is your trans people can choose between a field that doesn't pay it forward, like accounting; and I field where they can pay it forward.  And I urge them to choose the later.
It's easier to change your sex and gender in Iran, than it is in the United States.  Way easier.

Please read my novel, Dragonfly and the Pack of Three, available on Amazon - and encourage your local library to buy it too! We need realistic portrayals of trans people in literature, for all our sakes
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Mister

Quote from: GinaDouglas on July 01, 2009, 03:58:51 PM
The fields I listed are all real degrees, with good job prospects.  What I am saying is your trans people can choose between a field that doesn't pay it forward, like accounting; and I field where they can pay it forward.  And I urge them to choose the later.

Sorry, I'm not about to go back to school for- or encourage some else to educate themselves in- a career path that I/they have absolutely no interest in so that I can.. do what, exactly?  Drug research isn't controlled by one worker's hopes and dreams, it's all about big pharma.  If you're interested in bankrolling some independent research, then by all means, advertise your 'Pay It Forward' grant.  Otherwise, you've got a serious misconception if you think a young ->-bleeped-<- with a Chem. degree is going to change your drug choices.
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Shazny2010

You know what...I still want to look into this. You guys will all thank me I just know it.

Remember the name Dr.Shazny!!!  That sound so good to me. Dr.Shazny!!
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V M

I'm not into drugs or anything that is weirder than me. And I'm pretty weird in some ways  :laugh: But I do wish I would have transitioned in my early 20's rather than wait until my late 40's. I am fairly well educated. but wish I would have pursued a degree rather than mostly study on my own the particular subjects that interest me and work my butt off at stupid jobs. Go to school and get a degree. That piece of paper in your hand will help you a whole lot more than any thoughts in your head
The main things to remember in life are Love, Kindness, Understanding and Respect - Always make forward progress

Superficial fanny kissing friends are a dime a dozen, a TRUE FRIEND however is PRICELESS


- V M
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K8

Quote from: Shazny2010 on July 01, 2009, 11:29:18 PM
You know what...I still want to look into this. You guys will all thank me I just know it.

Remember the name Dr.Shazny!!!  That sound so good to me. Dr.Shazny!!

Go for it. ;D  Dr. Shazny sounds good to me, too!

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Vicky

I for one LOVE GinaDouglas' observation and sentiment on this topic, even though I do have to see that some of its practicality for ALL young trans-folk is limited. 

As a "child of the 60's" I was present at many of the early college demonstrations for ethno/racial equality in Southern California and had friends who took part in them actively.  As a whiteblueeyedblondpriviledgedmale (seemingly said and applied as a single word much like the 'Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious' from Mary Poppins) at the time, I was actually "sidelined" by the others at the time in spite of my own feelings that the activists were correct.  Never the less, one day when one of my classmates at California State College At Los Angeles (now California State University At Los Angeles) had made an impassioned public speech on behalf of the need for excellent teachers for his ethno/racial group I quite innocently asked him if he was going to become a teacher in his community, (I knew him as a fellow pre-law student) and the immediate response from him was an equally impassioned NEGATIVE that he was not going to starve on teacher's wages!! --- this with a microphone on ---!!!  A few years later, I did meet him again at the Bar Exam Site in L.A, and he was a little grudging about it, but he did talk to me again.  I never did pass the Bar Exam, and lost track of him for a while, but recently heard of him, not as a lawyer, but as a political activist for welfare rights of homeless people.   ::)  ::) ::)  (Note--Impassioned is my deliberate sarcasm that translates out as "a whole ->-bleeped-<-in' ->-bleeped-<-load of profanity", but that would not be ladylike and I am M2F). :D

What none of the people in my life at the time knew, and I did not fully understand, was that I was having trouble with the "Male" element of my life even then, and a liberal as they wanted to seem, trangender was not a "fellow traveler" on the civil rights agenda for them, and in fact was one that they would have felt would derail their train.  Now that I am finally looking at beginning HRT in a few days, I just wonder how I might have sounded like as  a "whiteblueeyedblondpriviledgedmale" with a microphone on back then.   ??? ??? 

Shazny -- you have to have a dream to make the dream come true!!  If GinaDouglas post has given you a dream, she has done a wonderful thing!!! :angel: :)  A major item that is missing for young people today are hero's and heroines that they can take on as role models.   :'(

I refuse to have a war of wits with a half armed opponent!!

Wiser now about Post Op reality!!
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Jeatyn

I like to think I'm helping the cause by transitioning very publicly, in the hope it will at least educate anyone who comes in to contact with me...they might spread it to a few other people. You never know.

I'd love to do some sort trans-charity work, not sure at all where to start.
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Zelane

There is something that im not sure if has been commented. When you ge to transition in college and it goes well (kinda well at least) you are opening the door to those that might come behind.

It can get hard specially if you are the first where you are studying. But like Jeatyn say, transitioning in the open helps so the people realize we are just normal people just trying to live our lives.
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Carolyn

...Interesting, study a subject I'm already interested in to try and aid my brothers and sisters. How exciting. I have been out of High School for about 3 years now, and I recently dropped out of college because I was no longer interesting in what I was going there to do nor did they have anything I was interested in. My favorite subjects are: Physics, Chemistry, Biology and Psychology.
So yea this type of research and steady is right up my ally. How I love Science and the Scientific Process.
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GinaDouglas

Quote from: Jeatyn on July 02, 2009, 11:43:59 AM
I like to think I'm helping the cause by transitioning very publicly, in the hope it will at least educate anyone who comes in to contact with me...they might spread it to a few other people. You never know.

Yes, but you can only do this because of those who broke the ground before you.
It's easier to change your sex and gender in Iran, than it is in the United States.  Way easier.

Please read my novel, Dragonfly and the Pack of Three, available on Amazon - and encourage your local library to buy it too! We need realistic portrayals of trans people in literature, for all our sakes
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fae_reborn

Quote from: Zelane on July 03, 2009, 03:21:41 AM
There is something that im not sure if has been commented. When you ge to transition in college and it goes well (kinda well at least) you are opening the door to those that might come behind.

It can get hard specially if you are the first where you are studying. But like Jeatyn say, transitioning in the open helps so the people realize we are just normal people just trying to live our lives.

I agree with this, as while I was in college I too transitioned publicly.  However, I took it a step further by pursuing a gender neutral campaign at my college.  By the time I graduated, the college had made some changes (not everything I had hoped for), and I had opened the eyes of fellow students and faculty/staff alike.  I majored in Women's Studies and Sociology, and consider myself an activist.

I'm very fortunate to those who came before me, and the activism I did on campus was my way of "paying it forward" and an homage to those who have paved the way for trans- folks.
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gennee

I recently spoke with my bible fellowship group about transgender and Christianity. I earned a bachelor's degree last year at age 59. I will be pursuing a master's degree. Not young chronilogically but in spirit.

Gennee
Be who you are.
Make a difference by being a difference.   :)

Blog: www.difecta.blogspot.com
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heatherrose



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Sum r like rully ol and stuf
and UUUUGLIE.

Sum like wudint no tha diff btwene
like Word of Wawcraft n Wunda Bred,
Like...

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just minutes after receiving his diploma.

What was Lincoln's Gettysburg Address?

Like... I dont no like the zip code or anythin but.....

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"I have always wanted to have a neighbor just like you,
I've always wanted to live in a neighborhood with you.

So let's make the most of this beautiful day,
Since we're together, we might as well say,
Would you be mine?
Could you be mine?
Won't you be my neighbor?" - Fred Rogers
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