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How much do you feel you life is on hold until you transition

Started by milliontoone, July 03, 2009, 06:29:56 PM

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milliontoone

Does anyone else feel that there are certain things they just can't do or experience until they transition fully?  Not because they won't mentally allow themselves to, not because they don't have the confidence too neccessarily but certain things are actually just not possible until you pass.  Also just the experience of passing itself affords a certain satisfaction which cannot be substituted. 
Now don't get me wrong I am much happier since having been on T and I'm not really putting my life on hold or anything major in terms of plans, I am going back to college in September to study engineering and I plan to study for my degree in history too but nevertheless I am sick of people referring to me as a woman and all I want is finally for it to go away for ever and people just to see me as who I am, a guy.  I do shy away from approaching guys I like because of it and also because I don't pass I am much more hesitant in terms of getting involved with the (gay) scene than I will be when I pass maybe because I feel that at the moment I will be misread as a butch lesbian when I am actually not.  To me this is a big deal socially as I hang back a bit more than I should when it matters to me.  I have kicked myself mentally for this in the past.
I find in environments where I don't care so much what people think I could care less.  But someone where I actually really want to be I am much more self conscious.  It sometimes makes me just want to avoid this places completely until I transition although I wouldn't do this because it is where I want to be socially. But nevertheless it is something that bothers me as I can't relate as I would like but I don't really feel I can change it until I move futher along in my transition.
I don't expect any solutions I just needed to kind of rant.
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Lachlann

I've been thinking of making a thread like this for a while now. Never got around to it and it was oddly worded when I did try.

But for me, it's almost like when I hit puberty I became ageless. Did I mature mentally? Yeah, but I feel like the rest of my life just can't really normalize or feel like it's caught up with me until I transition or something happens. I just feel like my body is getting older, I'm missing out on some experiences, but I'm never really my age. I'm just in limbo.
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Mister

I felt like my life was entirely on hold, which is why I transitioned as quickly as I could.  I took a medical leave from work, had top surg and hysto, went back for a couple weeks and it was just too weird.  I wasn't being treated as female any longer but most decidedly not as male either, so I hopped a plane and moved to California, finished up my post-grad work while job hunting out here.
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perfectisolation

My life is on an absolute standstill. But I think a lot of that has to do with my social anxiety, it makes it so hard to keep friends. I go out of my way to avoid social situations since I was little so I've missed out a lot on life, even more than a lot of other trans people. But even so I feel like I can't do things like go swimming, have friends who know me as a guy, dating, and all that stuff. I've decided I absolutely have to transition, there's no way I can live like this anymore. It's helping tear my life apart, it's destroying my identity and self esteem by staying this way.

Really right now I'm at the independence level of a 10 year old because I've held my life back so much. I didn't learn to drive until this year. But I'm starting to get on my feet. It's painful to see other people who have lives though. Other guys doing normal things that they don't even think twice about, while I sit and look out my window, pitying myself.
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sneakersjay

I also transitioned as fast as possible.  Took me about 3-4 months on T to pass pretty consistently.  I hated the whole in between stage.  Sucked big time!!


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Lori

Wow another great question.

I don't know if it is fair for me to answer because I've had other things in life holding me back besides GID. I do know at times I have broken off relationships or refused to do contract work because I just didn't have it in me. Either I was feeling too girly to play male for a male type job or I wasn't interested in something so male like that it turned me off. Lost contracts are lost opportunities. I've spent my whole life second guessing and doubting myself.

I don't know how many times I have been proven right after the fact, but refusing to act either due to GID or other issues has led me to destroy wealth, give away time, money, and possessions as I purged my entire life and washed my hands of everything. That in itself has been damaging and I've had to work twice as hard to replace what I lost and try to claw my way ahead to get to the next level.

I've done this while being depressed and unhappy yet I've pressed on by making others happy. It was my only strength as I sat and loathed myself the whole time. I cannot imagine what it will be like to be myself, a pretty girl, one who loved herself. Would I stop giving things away? Would I accept those contracts? Would I reach a healthy medium and balance in my life?

I don't know.
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K8

Quote from: milliontoone on July 03, 2009, 06:29:56 PM
I don't expect any solutions I just needed to kind of rant.

Rant on, milliontoone. ;)

I'm older and going in the other direction, so maybe my thoughts don't apply.  I put my GID on hold as best I could to work on the other issues in my life.  When things settled down, I finally got around to transitioning.  I tend to be single-threaded, so I tend to want to work on only one thing at a time. :P

I've been Katherine for 10 weeks now and I'm starting to get my life back.  The beginning of transitioning sucked up a lot of my energy.  I'm not fond of the in-between stage (to put it mildly ::)) but I'm not going to hide in a cave while all this is going on.  I wasn't going to avoid my friends during early transition - after all, I've really needed them.  During my transition most everyone I meet either doesn't care that I'm both/neither or doesn't notice.  On electrolysis days, when I have ugly whiskers sticking out of my face but am presenting female (as I do every day now), I feel particularly unlovely but people either don't notice, are kind, or are a little more stand-offish than usual.  No biggie. ;)

My advice?  Stand tall.  You are a strong, valuable, smart, good person.  If you are clocked as trans, so what?  If nothing else, it will make it a bit easier for the next trans person - a form of social action.

In this life if you you can do nothing else: BE WHO YOU ARE!

No, don't put your life on hold.  It may be the only one you get.  While transitioning you may not have the energy to do a lot of other things, but don't let your transitioning stop you from all the other things you want to do - college, friends, etc.  Get on with your life as who you are now - a person who is finding your true self.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Nero

A little bit. Not really on hold, but I feel like people can't really 'see' me yet and it's annoying. Not on hold really, but sure will be more excited about life and doing new things once I'm no longer invisible.
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GnomeKid

Quote from: Monty on July 03, 2009, 08:59:57 PM
I've been thinking of making a thread like this for a while now. Never got around to it and it was oddly worded when I did try.

But for me, it's almost like when I hit puberty I became ageless. Did I mature mentally? Yeah, but I feel like the rest of my life just can't really normalize or feel like it's caught up with me until I transition or something happens. I just feel like my body is getting older, I'm missing out on some experiences, but I'm never really my age. I'm just in limbo.

this exactly.

I also am weary of starting any internships which I probably should have went after this year just in case I  (hopefully) further my transition (hormones, name change, ect...) within the year so that I can apply as male and not have to deal with that later... and It'd be weird to do an internship and then call back for references as a different gender.  So I feel that I am putting a lot of my actual life on hold to go through so that it doesn't make later in life even more awkward.
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Teknoir

I support out of order execution  ;D

I try not to let transition consume my life. I go as far as I can afford, then I go and work on some other of life's problems for a while until I make some more dosh. I usually pick up new skills in one that can make the other go smoother.

I refuse to put my life on hold. It was on hold when I was trying to be something I wasn't. That was enough.
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icontact

For me, all transition took was to come out and get a haircut when it was too hot to hide under hats, so it was more of a, I really want to decide what I want for myself because being in limbo is a pain in the ass, especially when it wasn't difficult for me to go one way or the other. So it was as if my indecision was the only thing holding me back. Very strange feeling/
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Jeatyn

I'm trying not to put my life on hold any more but it's annoying to be read as a woman when I'm trying to get on with normal everyday stuff. Just waiting for my gender clinic appointment to finally get on T.

I'm just getting on with what I have to do as a transsexual, I'd rather get on with things as a guy, but at this point it's just easier to do it this way. I don't pass consistently enough and it's so awkward when half the people you're talking to think you're a guy and the other half think you're a girl. So I just tell everyone (by everyone I mean employers and such, not just random people I talk to on the street) I'm trans so at least they get the pronouns right. I haven't had any trouble with any sort of discrimination because of it....yet.

Once I'm on T and have some money saved up I'll probably move to a new city and go stealth.
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Nathan.

Quote from: northy on July 04, 2009, 12:06:58 AM
My life is on an absolute standstill. But I think a lot of that has to do with my social anxiety, it makes it so hard to keep friends. I go out of my way to avoid social situations since I was little so I've missed out a lot on life, even more than a lot of other trans people. But even so I feel like I can't do things like go swimming, have friends who know me as a guy, dating, and all that stuff. I've decided I absolutely have to transition, there's no way I can live like this anymore. It's helping tear my life apart, it's destroying my identity and self esteem by staying this way.

Really right now I'm at the independence level of a 10 year old because I've held my life back so much. I didn't learn to drive until this year. But I'm starting to get on my feet. It's painful to see other people who have lives though. Other guys doing normal things that they don't even think twice about, while I sit and look out my window, pitying myself.

man that pretty much just described me. But yeah putting my social anxiety problems aside I definitly feel like my life's on hold at the moment I don't pass and I feel that holds me back.
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Arch

I remember trying to explain this on-hold feeling and my own physical ambiguity a few weeks ago. I didn't, and still don't, know what my status is at my current job. I had final grading to do for the term. The stress of transitioning on the job had been wearing me down for months, and I badly needed a few weeks off. I had top surgery scheduled in a few weeks. My gender markers were all female, and I wasn't always read as male. My partner had broken up with me a month earlier, and I was staring at a lengthy divorce process. I knew that I couldn't look for a new job or a new apartment in such a state of ambiguity.

The gal I was talking to was trying to work out the logistics for me. "You see, you put in applications now, maybe you get a phone interview in a couple of weeks when you're recuperating from surgery, you do your pre-semester prep while you're on jury duty in early August, you start teaching fall semester in mid-August, you look for apartments as soon as you get past the first day of teaching...yes, you can absolutely teach at a new job and find a new apartment all at once."

She just didn't get it.

The thing is, it wasn't about logistics; it was about my emotional needs. I had been living pre-transition and transition and regular life for months, and I had a pretty good idea of what I could and could not handle and what kind of break I needed and what kinds of psychological requirements it would take for me to jump certain life hurdles. She didn't. I kept saying, "I'm not going to do that." She kept saying, "But you CAN." I finally said, "Logistically, yes, it is possible. BUT I'M NOT GOING TO DO THAT."

The thing is, it WASN'T logistically possible. I knew that my psychological needs had to be taken into account. I knew that because of my transition, certain parts of my life were on hold and would be for a little while. Only some kind of gigantic life crisis, like being homeless or having no money at all, could reorient my priorities and force me to bypass my psychological needs. And I don't think such a scenario would have had a good result in the long run. I think I would have cracked. I tried to give myself a break for a short time this summer so that I wouldn't crack.

In her mind, I could quite easily negotiate the following in a seven- or eight-week period: finding and starting a new job, finding and moving into a new apartment, living in a new gender and sexual orientation, having and recovering from top surgery, making legal gender marker changes, initiating the early stages of my divorce, and starting a new life without my partner of twenty years. In my mind, I knew that I had been barely hanging on for months and needed to get further along in transition before I could handle certain other things.

Drives me nuts when other people tell me what I can handle, especially when they're talking about something they will never experience. She just didn't get it. But, yes, I need more progress in my transition before I leap into the next new thing. My therapist agrees, and even my partner agrees, even though he would love for me to waltz into a new job and a new apartment as soon as possible so he can get to the next phase of his life and start dealing with his "me issues." (He feels that he can't deal with "me" until I'm out of his life and out of his personal space. Whatever.)

I don't know why this friend was being so obtuse when I tried to tell her what I needed and what I could handle. I felt like she was telling me what to do. Sorry, but I do things my own way. And I have a much more realistic idea of what I can handle than she does. And certain parts of my life will have to be on hold until I transition. Yup.
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Nero

QuoteOnly some kind of gigantic life crisis, like being homeless or having no money at all, could reorient my priorities and force me to bypass my psychological needs. And I don't think such a scenario would have had a good result in the long run. I think I would have cracked. I tried to give myself a break for a short time this summer so that I wouldn't crack.

good for you, Arch. Western medicine would have us believe our emotional health is secondary to everything else, when it is the be all and end all. doesn't matter what you have or do, it all goes to ->-bleeped-<- if you're mentally unwell.
Nero was the Forum Admin here at Susan's Place for several years up to the time of his death.
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Arch

Quote from: Nero on July 06, 2009, 08:26:18 AM
good for you, Arch. Western medicine would have us believe our emotional health is secondary to everything else, when it is the be all and end all. doesn't matter what you have or do, it all goes to ->-bleeped-<- if you're mentally unwell.

Thanks, Nero. You've always been an inspiration to me. And to others, I suspect.
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