Adam's Apple Growth

[Vancha]

I've heard various things about adam's apple growth due to testosterone.

I've heard that it doesn't grow because of testosterone, but I've also heard that it does.  If it is generally agreed that it doesn't, why?  Is it possible to make the adam's apple grow more, and if so, how can this be done?  Or is it all due to genetics, or impossible entirely?

Just some thoughts...

[NicholeW.]

I've seen men develop cleft chins on T. Don't know about Adam's Apples though. Never paid them much attention on TS males. Most of the one's I've been around in person were wearing beards.

[Mister]

Yes, it grows on T.  Whether or not you have one is genetic.  There are implants if you don't get one the organic way.

[Vancha]

Well, that's good for me, as it is indeed in my genetics.  I heard there were implants, but were unsure as to whether they were always necessary for an adam's apple.  I've seen some men with adam's apples, and some without – both genetic and TS, and had to wonder about whether those who denied growth on T was possible were correct.

[petzjazz]

I've seen men develop cleft chins on T.

I find this tremendously interesting, and I've never heard anything like this before. You've seen multiple transmen develop cleft chins on T? Did they carry a lot of fat on their heads (or as I was going to put it, "have really, really fat heads") and then have it redistribute to reveal the cleft, or were they thin and actually developed clefts? I'm guessing it's probably just that they had fat covering the clefts prior to T, but I've heard that the spongy bone tissue in the jaw (as well as in the nose) continue to harden up through middle age (making the nose and jaw "grow" until very late in life). Maybe T's masculinizing effects on the lower face aren't due just to fat resdistribution but also to the T actually causing increased "growth" (hardening) of the cartilage. Maybe this could even result in the development of cleft chins (a majority-of-the-time male trait)? *doesn't know much about how cleft chins work genetically*

[Vancha]

That is truly bizarre.  I'm not sure why cleft chins exist in themselves, nor why they would develop due to testosterone.  It would make sense to me that it has something to do with cartilage and the masculinization of the face due to the hormone.  There isn't a single member of my family with a cleft chin, so I find it unlikely that I would develop such a thing.  But it would be interesting to look into, as I don't understand how they develop to begin with.

[Ender]

I've seen men develop cleft chins on T.

I would be inclined to think this is mostly due to the men in question losing fat on their faces.  A cleft chin is a genetic trait; it is the result of the left and right portions of the lower mandible not completely fusing together during fetal development.  I have seen plenty of women with cleft chins (take a look at Jessica Simpson), though I haven't seen many women with the extremely deep fissure that some men have.  That said, I have seen some women who look like they could have that kind of extreme fissure (they have a large, long indentation in their chins), but it is smoothed over with a layer of fat.

I have a slight cleft in my chin that has been present since childhood.  It is becoming more pronounced (not very much--just a small dimple--take a look at my avatar) on T, simply because I am losing fat in my face.  My dad also has a cleft chin that results in a small dimple.  I'm not sure about my mom; I've never personally felt her jawbone, and her face is too rounded to tell visually.

[Arch]

My larynx is bulkier than it was, but I don't have that prominent Adam's apple that I crave. My brother has always had a very visible Adam's apple. I wish I could have one like his.

I've only been on T for a few months, so perhaps time will tell.

I haven't noticed any really noticeable protrusions in the transmen of my acquaintance, but I haven't made a close study of all of them. Perhaps I should run a poll at the next couple of support group meetings.

[Vancha]

I can't help but crave a prominent Adam's apple, as well.  My brother and father have rather prominent ones, as well as everyone on my father's side of the family (who I apparently take after the most).  My "genetic clone", my uncle, has the most prominent one of them all.

But if worst comes to worst, implants won't hurt. (Technically speaking).  If women can have silicon breasts, I can have silicon in my throat.

[icontact]

I would be inclined to think this is mostly due to the men in question losing fat on their faces.  A cleft chin is a genetic trait; it is the result of the left and right portions of the lower mandible not completely fusing together during fetal development.  I have seen plenty of women with cleft chins (take a look at Jessica Simpson), though I haven't seen many women with the extremely deep fissure that some men have.  That said, I have seen some women who look like they could have that kind of extreme fissure (they have a large, long indentation in their chins), but it is smoothed over with a layer of fat.

I have a slight cleft in my chin that has been present since childhood.  It is becoming more pronounced (not very much--just a small dimple--take a look at my avatar) on T, simply because I am losing fat in my face.  My dad also has a cleft chin that results in a small dimple.  I'm not sure about my mom; I've never personally felt her jawbone, and her face is too rounded to tell visually.

I also have a slight cleft chin like yours, but I'm not on T. And my best friend, cisfemale, has an extreme cleft chin, so it's possible to have one naturally.

[Arch]

I also have a slight cleft chin like yours, but I'm not on T. And my best friend, cisfemale, has an extreme cleft chin, so it's possible to have one naturally.

Why, Asher! Are you suggesting that T is not natural??!! Say it's not so!!! (Just givin' you a hard time.)

[milliontoone]

But if worst comes to worst, implants won't hurt. (Technically speaking).  If women can have silicon breasts, I can have silicon in my throat.

Omg that's just horrific I just couldn't.  Sorry but no way jose

[JonasCarminis]

mine has grown.  ive heard its just from the T and ive also heard that it doesnt grow, it just protrudes more due to your vocal chords thickening.  mine feels bigger and protrudes more, so idk.  lol

[Vancha]

Omg that's just horrific I just couldn't.  Sorry but no way jose

Don'tcha know?  Being made of plastic is the new thing.

[Jay]

I wouldn't say it has grown. I do have a fat neck though! But my neck has definetly gotten fatter, and wider. Definetly more manly.

Jay