hurt and greed thats just mean

[chickenmanfred]

i was thinking....
i want so much,
i desire so much,
i think i need so much, but its just wants of mine....
so could the reason of being sad be that you are hurt, or that you are greedy?
am i just the last one to notice this?
just another random rock hit my head.... lol. simple pimple mimples.
the wanting of, and nothing given to you....
BLAH

[Sara]

If you are saying that by wanting what is best for you and your health is being greedy then I would say yes and no as greed has to do with gain and yes you may gain from what you want but you may not also. If that makes any sense.

If you are sad because you cannot have what you want, these are emotions that can have an effect on the outcome.

GREED: Excessive desire to acquire or possess more (especially more material wealth) than one needs.

Are your desires excessive or do you just want what is best for you and your health?

Sara.

[Kimberly]

...
i want so much,
...

Check!

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i desire so much,
...

Check!

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i think i need so much, but its just wants of mine....
...

Reasonable.

...
am i just the last one to notice this?
...

Certainly possible. I tend (hopefully past tense) to be very dense at times.

...
the wanting of, and nothing given to you....
...

I think that something are to important to just want.
So for the important things, strive to acquire what you want. Make your own life better. Do not wait. Do not just want.
Also, I think, something are too important to just wait for them to be given unto you.

[HelenW]

People have been thinking about this for a long long time.  Buddha said that desire is the cause of all suffering so the Buddhist's solution is to try to desire nothing.  I always had a problem with this because if you want nothing then you will never progress, you'll just sit there.

I think it's OK to desire things but I've found that expecting to get them, being emotionally attached to your desire, can be a problem.  I wish I could remember who said that "expectations are disappointments waiting to happen."  So I try to get what I want and then, if I don't, let it go.  I'm not always successful at that, of course.  But I find if I want something worthwhile badly enough, I usually figure out how to get it eventually (the waiting sometimes sucks big time, though).  By the way, nothing worthwhile comes easy, imho.

And if I don't get it, there's always plan Q!  Look at Kimberly's tag line: Fall seven times, stand up eight.  I really like that.

helen

[Jessica]

hahaha, that reminds me, I had to track this down:

"Your majesty, birth is misery; old age is misery; disease is misery; death is misery; sorrow is misery; lamentation is misery; misery is misery; grief is misery; despair is misery; association with those we do not love is misery; separation from those we love is misery; to have a mother die is misery; to have a father die is misery; to have a brother die is misery; to have a sister die is misery; to have a son die is misery; to have a wife die is misery; to have a relative die is misery; to have misfortunes happen to a relative is misery; the loss of health is misery; the loss of wealth is misery; the loss of character is misery; the loss of orthodoxy is misery; to be in danger from the king is misery; to be in danger from bandits is misery; to be in danger from enemies is misery; to be in danger of famine is misery; to be in danger from fire is misery; to be in danger from water is misery; to be in danger from the waves is misery; to be in danger from whirlpools is misery; to be in danger from crocodiles is misery; to be in danger from sea-monsters is misery; self-reproach is misery; the reproach of others is misery; to be fined is misery; poverty is misery; stage-fright is misery; to be in danger from the naked ascetics is misery; to be in danger of death is misery; to be beaten with rattans is misery; to be beaten with whips is misery; to be beaten with short sticks is misery; to have one's hands cut off is misery; to have one's feet cut off is misery; to have one's hands and feet cut off is misery; to have one's ears cut off is misery; to have one's nose cut off is misery; to have one's ears and nose cut off is misery; the 'kettle of gruel' is misery; the 'sea-shell tonsure' is misery; the 'Râhu-mouth' is misery; the 'wreath of flame' is misery; the 'hands of flame' is misery; the 'blades of grass' is misery; the 'bark-dress' is misery; the 'black antelope' is misery; the 'hook-meat' is misery; the 'penny-bit' is misery; 'carving by caustics' is misery; the 'pivot' is misery; the 'straw-bolster'1 is misery; to be sprinkled with boiling oil is misery; to be devoured by dogs is misery; to be impaled alive is misery; to be beheaded with a sword is misery. Such, such, your majesty, are the various and manifold miseries which one encounters in the course of rebirth.

   "As the water, your majesty, of the Ganges River, after having rained down in the Himalaya Mountains, encounters on its way stones, grit, . . . whirlpools, eddies, . . . obstructions, hindrances, roots, and branches; in exactly the same way, your majesty, men have to encounter various and manifold miseries in the course of rebirth.

   "The existent, your majesty, is misery; the non-existent is happiness; and it was, your majesty, while The Blessed One was explaining how good is the non-existent, and how terrible the existent, that he gave the exhortation to realize the non-existent by overcoming birth, old age, disease, and death.

Basically, everything before 'enlightenment' (according to the buddha, in this text called 'non-existent') is absolute misery; personally, I concur 

[chickenmanfred]

wowzetz! yes indeed we work for what we want....
then you can always think of all that you would do for what you want....
taking it 2 far and not being able to accomplish.
wanting to sing, but you cant sing good for beans and you end up showed as the most terrible singer of American Idol. NO! NO! NO! LIFE KINDA BAD NOW! you tried.... you got lessons.....
hmm.... QUESTION!
desires of that crushed down the drain of dust....
you are hurt and get back up for a new goal....
i wonder..... [i just am talking about it for my step dad is watching the show right now] 
thank you
so is it all ok? the world might die.

[Dennis]

To take the singing analogy further. If, even with lessons, you sound awful on American Idol, you can still enjoy singing to children, singing in choirs, and generally getting joy out of singing. You don't always have to be the best at something to enjoy it. I'm a master of mediocrity myself, but there are a lot of things I enjoy, just none that I am the best at. That doesn't bug me.

Dennis

[rana]

Exactly Dennis
I suck at singing yet I enjoy singing very much - thats the benefit of singing in a choir (hidden amongst the good singers    ).  Yet even the worst singer has some ability & there is a place for them in a choir.  And, when the choir hits its groove    everyones heart leaps

rana

[Dennis]

If you want fame, then you can choose something nobody else does. Like Ozzy Osbourne biting off the heads of chickens. Or Paris Hilton, who has no talent whatsoever in anything (and yes, I saw the sex videos), but is famous for being rich and having no taste whatsoever.

If you just want to do something because you love it, you can always find a way to do it. If you just wanna be famous, then you have to give up an awful lot of yourself to do it.

And some people are lucky enough to be good at what they love and also get rich and famous doing it. Lance Armstrong, I've read, has 20% more lung capacity than the average male, so he has a physiological advantage for what he does. He obviously loves it, and he's damn good at it. But if you can't love something without striking it lucky, having the advantage, or being the best, maybe you ought to think about whether you really love doing it or if it's the spotlight you love.

And Rana, yes, that moment when you hit it as a choir, is amazing!

Dennis

[tinkerbell]

I am me

Sly as a fox
I keep my feelings in a box
As greedy as I can be
I love gold, can you dig?

Sweet as a dove
For friends and family I love
On the other hand, a bat
Because if you make me mad, it's you I'll smack

If we're truly cool, and you I really like
Then I'm like an eagle
Because I'll fly for you
Like your best friend, I'll die for you

Like a rabbit
Eating carrots is a habit
Selfish like a monkey
'Cause you can't have my money

I am all these things
To others, happiness I bring
So like a Red Cardinal
Sweet melodies I'll sing.

tinkerbell

P.S.