E Patches & Breast

[snafu2me]

Hi, I need an answer to questions about applying estrogens patch to the breast?
Why do they warn not to apply them to the breast?
Of you using patches do any of you use the breast area?
If you do use the breast what have you experienced doing this?
Thanks In Advance.
Best Wishes
Snafu2Me

[Mister]

Any sort of patch (hormone, nicotine, pain) needs to be applied on a muscle- the larger the better.  They work systemically, not locally, so placing them on your breasts will not increase the rate or amount of growth whatsoever.

[FairyGirl]

what I've heard is that the reason they say not to apply E patches to your breasts is because it could cause abnormal cell growth in that area, i.e. breast cancer.

[katherine]

I believe FairyGirl's response is right.  At some point, just recently I had read that while reviewing info regarding estrogen delivery systems.  Also, as pointed out by Mister, everything I've read indicates that placing the patches on the breast will not have any effect regarding growth.  Of course, it's always best to ask the doc!

[Chloe]

. . . regarding estrogen delivery systems.

While it may very well be my imagination, the mirror playing tricks, I have also found the reverse corollary to be somewhat true - IM's delivered in the buttocks area seems to have considerably helped with my overall shape down there, south of the navel!

[LordKAT]

back when I had a patch, i was told to keep it below the heart, never asked why.

[GinaDouglas]

I have posted this before.  Transdermal estrogen DOES have a stronger impact in the area in which is applied.  For example, this is why women with vaginal atrophy apply estrogen inside the vagina.  Transdermal estrogen applied to the breasts WILL have a greater impact on breast growth, IN THE SHORT TERM.  Ultimately, breast size is determined by genetics, if estrogen is present at sufficient levels, over the long term.  Thus, you will get faster breast growth, but ultimately not bigger breasts; if estrogen is applied topically.  However, there is increased risk of abnormal growth and breast cancer.  So, if you apply transdermal estrogen to the breasts, you are risking lopsidedness, oddly shaped breasts, lumps and cancer for somewhat faster development but not ultimately larger breasts.

[Chloe]

Transdermal estrogen DOES have a stronger impact in the area in which is applied

ditto for IM!

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[Naturally Blonde]

I've been on patches for about 2 years and I've found they are not very effective? I've been on pills for over 10 years and they haven't been very effective either. Shots is my last resort..

[Steffi]

I've been on patches for about 2 years and I've found they are not very effective? I've been on pills for over 10 years and they haven't been very effective either. Shots is my last resort..

the significant matter is the amount of oestrogen circulating in your bloodstream, regardless of how it got there.
For oestrogen to work properly though, you really need to knock out testosterone because it destroys oestrogen and counteracts it's effects

[Naturally Blonde]

the significant matter is the amount of oestrogen circulating in your bloodstream, regardless of how it got there.
For oestrogen to work properly though, you really need to knock out testosterone because it destroys oestrogen and counteracts it's effects

Before I went on HRT I had very low testo levels and whenever I get my hormone levels tested these days my oestrogen levels are very high and the testo about 0.1. Progress cannot be measured by hormone levels and can only be made if the receptors of your own body work to make the physical changes. My receptors are not working very well no matter how high my oestrogen levels are or even if I get to the highest prolactin level.

So many TS's think it's all to do with how much oestrogen is in your system and how high the levels are but for me it's more important to find a way to effect the receptors to work to make those physical changes.

[Steffi]

Sorry then NB - in myself I noticed that recently, despite an oestrogen level two-and-a-half times the upper target level, when my T level inexplicably climbed back to its original starting level despite continued use of blockers, ALL development ceased and I couldn't detect any change in bust at all for 5 months .
They've given me an implant now and it seems to have done the trick 'cos boobs are a little sore again, as before.
 
So you seem to have some sort of "oestrogen insensitivity syndrome" then?
I've never heard of it, but I suppose that since such a syndrome exists for androgens, there is probably a corollary for oestrogen.

That really sucks ........ good luck hun, I do hope that you find some way to sort it out

[Naturally Blonde]

Sorry then NB - in myself I noticed that recently, despite an oestrogen level two-and-a-half times the upper target level, when my T level inexplicably climbed back to its original starting level despite continued use of blockers, ALL development ceased and I couldn't detect any change in bust at all for 5 months .
They've given me an implant now and it seems to have done the trick 'cos boobs are a little sore again, as before.
 
So you seem to have some sort of "oestrogen insensitivity syndrome" then?
I've never heard of it, but I suppose that since such a syndrome exists for androgens, there is probably a corollary for oestrogen.

That really sucks ........ good luck hun, I do hope that you find some way to sort it out

That's right. If I take more than a little HRT my prolactin level goes through the roof. I end up with severe headaches until I stop HRT for about a week. Even when I'm not taking HRT I don't ever get any Testo levels. 

My main concern isn't hormone levels per say but more physical development which is inhibited because if I take too much HRT the prolactin levels go way up again.