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Do LGBT people live in more upscale areas?

Started by Julie Marie, August 10, 2009, 04:20:59 PM

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Luc

Mississippi????

Just wanted to say that.

But yeah... California is a great place, if you have the money. As soon as I do, count me in. And yes, the coast is crazy expensive.
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tekla

If you're really happy and love living where you do, the money doesn't matter.  If you hate where you live a reduced rent is not going to make it all better.
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Janet_Girl

Where I live, not to far from Portland, I am 40 minutes from Mt. Hood, 1 1/2 hours to the Pacific coast, and 10 minutes from the Columbia River.  Winters are usually mild, and summers are usually not overly hot.  But the draw back is the rain.  In the Pacific Northwest, we do get rain and often.  In fact it is raining now and it is mid summer.

But many of the GLBT community live in downtown Portland.  Mostly I think because of Portland State College.  And the Q center, a meeting house/community center I guess you would call it.  Myles would know, because he lives here too.  Mostly it is clean and generally quite.

Janet
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tekla

Well Portland is kinda the example of a 'gay district' that didn't blow up the property values.

And having a McMansion - or even the real thing - is of little interest to me.  Hell, I'd love a beach shack (except out in Cali they run into the millions of dollars) or a cabin in West Sonoma County under the redwoods, or the classic two bedroom Victorian flat in SF.  Anything more than that is just an excuse to accumulate stuff.
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myles

When I was in Cali I was in a small town on the coast with a house that had awesome views, property, by the golf course. Now I live in NE Portland and love it. Where I live is definitely coming around (the Alberta Arts District) and is definitely GLBT friendly. The Q center just moved to North Portland about 3 miles from my house. Houses are reasonable (compared to California) and have not "crashed" in my neighborhood as it is where people want to live and a lot of demand not so much supply. I would definitely call my neighborhood an up and coming community with diversity. People are investing in thier houses and making it a great neighborhood and community to live in.
Myles
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Julie Marie

Here's another way to ask the original question...

Is there a higher percentage of phobes who live in middle or lower class areas? 

When we talk about the people who live in upscale LGBT areas we typically hear educated, diverse, open minded, things like that.  What you don't hear is phobic.  So is it logical to conclude phobes are... 

Well, you tell me.  ;)

Julie
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Deanna_Renee

Well, speaking from the other coast (Atlanta and formerly Boston) I can say that in the past 9 years living here in Metro Atlanta, I've noticed property values skyrocket. Yes there is a large GLBT population here, but then there is a large population of almost any group you want to name here. Atlanta is a very diverse metro area who's population has, or rather had, been growing very rapidly of late.

Nine years ago, when I came here, you could still easily find nice homes for under $200k (not condos or studios, but comfortably large homes), fast forward to just before the economy tanked, you would be hard pressed to find a comparably sized home for under $500k. Still more reasonable than LA and cheaper than downtown ATL where you can easily buy a condo for a few million, but then I really don't like living in the city, I love being just outside of one.

Boston, and my hometown of Cambridge, is very expensive and very diverse. I had heard that Cambridge is the most expensive city in the country to live in.

So, I don't think it is so much the GLBT part that is driving the market, but as someone else stated, the diversity of the people moving in and bringing in economy building businesses and social/cultural interest.

As for phobics, I think they are going to be everywhere. Though in more diverse and tolerant regions, they are going to be more out numbered than in smaller, more rural areas that have well established sense of community and far less open to change. Fear is a paralytic in many areas.
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Constance

Quote from: Julie Marie on August 13, 2009, 08:15:34 AM
Here's another way to ask the original question...

Is there a higher percentage of phobes who live in middle or lower class areas? 

When we talk about the people who live in upscale LGBT areas we typically hear educated, diverse, open minded, things like that.  What you don't hear is phobic.  So is it logical to conclude phobes are... 

Well, you tell me.  ;)

Julie

My parents are phobes, and they live in a somewhat upscale area. True, it's in Auburn, CA, but the area of Auburn they live is one of the more expensive neighborhoods.

I've encountered other wealthy bigots, too.

Upscale areas tend to be diverse, it seems to me, which means that you get both tolerant and intolerant folks living there. Of course, I'm referring to the upscale areas that I'm familiar with. From what I understand, there are many upscale areas that can be culturally homogeneous. And, it's possible for the cultural majority to be phobic.

eshaver

First lets clarify the fact that way too many of the  " T " people that I have met are in  UPSCALE work enviorments . Ive had friends that work for N A S A , the Pentagon , the Department of Health here in Richmond Virgina and other well paying positions . Even years back when I lived in Dallas Texas , there are and stil are a good amount of T folks that have made it in certain expensive areas of both Fort Wort Worth and Dallas . Course too lok at how many are computer literate too. They were in on the ground floor years ago when Computers still required a lot of programming just to turn the things on . They then became Web masters and I T people --well paid too  ! O K thats muh two an a half cent wurth !  Ellen Shaver
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tekla

For a lot of gay, lesbian and trans persons academic superiority was a way out.  A path they could achieve on without the stigma.  Computers, in the beginning, required such specialized skills that you would take people that could do it, and that was the only qualification.
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