I Guess There's A Reason So Many Men Think Trans Women Are All One-Dimensional

[Shana A]

I Guess There's A Reason So Many Men Think Trans Women Are All One-Dimensional Sexpots (+)
by: Autumn Sandeen
Sun Aug 30, 2009 at 22:00:00 PM EDT

http://pamshouseblend.com/diary/12733/i-guess-theres-a-reason-so-many-men-think-trans-women-are-all-onedimensional-sexpots

From the Examiner.com's Man's 'secret love' of transsexual women: Do new trends predict a second sexual revolution? (Part I)

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Just frickin' great.

There's so much more to that article -- and none of what's in the piece is anything I'm thrilled to read.

Y'know, it's not like trans women aren't hypersexualized enough as it is. This prediliction of men for "->-bleeped-<- porn" is just not goint to help trans women to be seen as whole people, that's for sure.

[tekla]

True that.  But then again, if you knew these boards, across the spectrum, and across time itself as I have, you'd learn that most ->-bleeped-<-s are incredibility self-centered people, who put themselves above anything/everything/everyone else, and then tend to blather on about it for years after everyone else has given up caring about it.  Or perhaps, that's, just me.  But at either rate, are not going to be spokesman for anyone, save themselves. 

[aisha]

idk about that tekla, i mean from the boards you only get one side of people, i think ->-bleeped-<-s do talk alot about themselves, at places like this because its good to get it out, it seems like more of a tradition because thats what everyone else is talking about. and in normal life its good to talk about it because otherwise people will not believe or probably will not understand, and even after you say your peice, even then sometimes they don't believe/understand, so it just becomes a cycle. just because people still don't understand and sometimes don't even seem to want to understand. its not comfortable you know? its like you have to fight for the position to be who you are, especially if you don't completely pass and start up an entirely new life. so i mean yeah. it just becomes like.. yeah i went through this.. ->-bleeped-<- is hard, life is hard, yup honestly its hard for everyone.. but i guess like alcoholics, its nice to have something to blame it on...
idk this is kind of bull->-bleeped-<-, i think a lot of it is just how you say it, and sometimes i just dont have the time energy or skill to say it in exactly the way i mean, but i trust somebody is gonna understand somewhat and expound a little at some point

[Hazumu]

True that.  But then again, if you knew these boards, across the spectrum, and across time itself as I have, you'd learn that most ->-bleeped-<-s are incredibility self-centered people, who put themselves above anything/everything/everyone else, and then tend to blather on about it for years after everyone else has given up caring about it.  Or perhaps, that's, just me.  But at either rate, are not going to be spokesman for anyone, save themselves.

I'd agree with a majority are, definitely.   I tend to choose for my friends those people who are not so self centered, with feet more or less on the ground.  I make allowances for the streak of geekiness that runs through the community, and the increased prevalence of 'aspies' (the grain of salt being that that may be an urban myth...)

Tekla, your perspective may be a bit different than mine.  Perhaps we'll cross paths.  I'd love to hear your take on me after a couple of hours chat (NO TS/TG topics allowed, just whatever other common interests we may have...)

But I've seen the kind of over-the-top self-centeredness of which you speak (long story...)

Karen

[Dennis]

True that.  But then again, if you knew these boards, across the spectrum, and across time itself as I have, you'd learn that most ->-bleeped-<-s are incredibility self-centered people, who put themselves above anything/everything/everyone else, and then tend to blather on about it for years after everyone else has given up caring about it.  Or perhaps, that's, just me.  But at either rate, are not going to be spokesman for anyone, save themselves.

Your sample may be biased. As people move past this board, they also move past the trans part of their lives. So yeah, people are self-centred during the transition, no doubt about it, but most move past that and think about the global, however that may or may not relate to the trans thing. For me, atm, trans doesn't factor into what I'm doing for volunteer work. For Karen, it is factoring in. Some do, some don't. I've met Karen irl and wouldn't think of her as self-centred.

I don't think, though, that you can judge all transfolks by what you observe on this board. But I do think that we have a damn good group of people on this board. I would like to see more of us stay around longer post-transition than we do, but I understand why people don't.

Dennis

[tekla]

Granted its a self centered time, but there is a difference between people who can reach out to others, even in that time, or who care about other things, even during that time, and those who are 'all about me, all the time.'  I'm guessing they were like that before they got here, they just never found anyone who would listen, and they are still the same, long after they have gone from here.