Online Hatred

[Mister]

While they sure are horrible advocates for making their points (most men's rights advocates strive for true equal division of assets, equal opportunity to be granted custody, equal access to child support and/or alimony from the court system), he also horribly stated something that's very true.  You've got to get your documentation changed in order to be respected as your target gender within the judicial system or any other government body.
Post Merge: September 12, 2009, 10:34:39 AM

... annnnnd that's why I don't mention a damn thing about being trans on message boards. Other than here, or anonymously.

yes, this.

[Princess Phoebe]

Oh but why didn't I listen to Monty?  Wow, what a word picture. I think Monty is a regular drama queen.

[cindybc]

annnnnd that's why I don't mention a damn thing about being trans on message boards. Other than here, or anonymously.

That was my point exactly on my last post.
Hi Mister.

While they sure are horrible advocates for making their points (most men's rights advocates strive for true equal division of assets, equal opportunity to be granted custody, equal access to child support and/or alimony from the court system), he also horribly stated something that's very true.  You've got to get your documentation changed in order to be respected as your target gender within the judicial system or any other government body.

Totally agree. 27 years ago I had a substantial piece of property evaluated at $750,000 and my three children I lost when I separated with my ex I was on the street and lucky I still owned my underwear. Frontier justice would at least put you out of your misery quicker.

Love
Cynthia

[noir]

I used to play World of Warcraft avidly. I eventually told this person I had gotten to know very well that I was transgendered. We used to talk on Skype, and even gave each other game-time cards when we didn't have the money to pay for it ourselves.  Well, when we got into an argument about some stuff, she posted on our server's forums that I was transsexual, and she showed me her true face concerning the transsexual community.

I quit playing World of Warcraft. I know there are LGBT guilds, but if I have to restrict myself to solely that community, why even bother playing to be harassed by closed-minded jerks? It's like that on most of the internet. Just gotta pick our battles wisely, sometimes we can be supported, and other times, we're freaks and targets of discrimination. You just gotta remember one infallible rule of the internet, there is no responsibility for actions taken here. You can just hop on a different handle, and keep up with your bigotry.

[heatherrose]

Would you consider another born with a physical defect a freak?
Consider yourself a freak and they win. For decades I allowed them to
convince me that I was a freak and I lived in terror that my freakdom would
be discovered. I hid all those years, for nothing because I am not freak. The
freaks are they who march in lockstep on their way to the Cool-Aide Festival,
they who are happy to live as they are instructed. Are you a freak?

[cindybc]

Dez iz lotz of swamps in des har partz for them kind. lots of chain and boat anker, or juke boxes, yer choice.  Eh all ya have to do is take away their Bibles and chawin tobakie and they aint nothin but pussy cats.....with rabies. "Hee, hee, hee."

Just passin through and havin a little fun. Have a lovely evening all, especially you Heatherrose

Love
Cindy

[Walter]

The internet is a really cruel place. I've had my share of internet hate because of various reasons. People will let their internet "mouth" fly just because it's on the internet. If it was in real life, they probably wouldn't be so open about their attitudes since they'd probably get the crap beat out of them

[Cindy]

The internet is a really cruel place. I've had my share of internet hate because of various reasons. People will let their internet "mouth" fly just because it's on the internet. If it was in real life, they probably wouldn't be so open about their attitudes since they'd probably get the crap beat out of them

I was thinking of this and remembered several stories were people have recieved hateful email from people in the same offices as themselves. Why? Because they think that sending an insulting email is different than walking ten paces and having an argument? Or is it some internet ostrich syndrome, just because I've said something hatefull via the internet it doesn't really count? And when they are confronted by management with the offensive document they begin by denying all knowledge of it!

Strange Days Indeed

A very non-hateing Cindy

[cindybc]

 

Ahhhh!!" much better to say it with 

Cindy

[ceili]

Aside from my own "family" the only hate I've ever encountered is online. It seems people are willing to say things on the internet to others that they'd never say in real life.

Oddly enough, the worst case of online hate is one I've been dealing with over the last two months or so. One person, on two different forums I am on related to a hobby of mine. I called this person out on comments they made which were completely disparaging to transgender people. I was then quietly told in a PM that this person was herself transgender. I did a lot of research and sure enough -- I was able to prove that this person is indeed transgender but trash talks transgender people to no end on these websites, and refuses to admit they are trans even when faced with undeniable evidence. I can understand wanting to be stealth, but to forget where you came from and trash your own just because? I don't get it. Not at all.

~Ceili

[heatherrose]

It seems people are willing to say things on the internet to others that they'd never say in real life.

This sociological quirk is not restricted to those who use the internet.
Given the ability to communicate with complete anonymity using
any medium, the morons always seem to find their voice.

One time at band camp.... oh wrong story.

On the C.B. radio the morons are called "Citizen Band Kamikazes"
and the mindless sparing can go on for hundreds of miles, each challenging
the other "to pull it on over to the side". Aside from an occasional scuffle
on the fuel island, you hardly ever see this kind of behavior exhibited in
public. Every once in awhile you will hear about two brain trusts who do
decide "to settle it like men". One leaves the truck stop parking
lot in cuffs and the other in a body bag. 

[cindybc]

There is always a monkeys backside in every crowd. Guess I been lucky, working as a social worker for 22 years, only once I was backed up against a wall and that was a girl friend of a guy who was jealous of me would you believe. I guess she thought I had some designs on her boy friend.

And of course got intercepted by a drunk one night while crossing the street, he decided he wanted my purse, got away with only a couple of shiners but held on to my purse.

I my previous life, they were mostly the bucket mouth type you talk about heatherrose. I can take the heat from blowhards but them there bricks could be detrimental to my noggin, but never had to dodge bricks or fists either. I'm a peaceable person.

Love
Cindy

[ceili]

This sociological quirk is not is restricted to those who use the internet.
Given the ability to communicate with complete anonymity using
any medium, the morons always seem to find their voice.

One time at band camp.... oh wrong story.

On the C.B. radio the morons are called "Citizen Band Kamikazes"
and the mindless sparing can go on for hundreds of miles, each challenging
the other "to pull it on over to the side". Aside from an occasional scuffle
on the fuel island, you hardly ever see this kind of behavior exhibited in
public. Every once in awhile you will hear about two brain trusts who do
decide "to settle it like men". One leaves the truck stop parking
lot in cuffs and the other in a body bag. 

Funny you should mention radio... The forums in question are ham radio in nature.

[Tammy Hope]

... annnnnd that's why I don't mention a damn thing about being trans on message boards. Other than here, or anonymously.

I've been a long time poster at a REALLY good forum (and I can prove they are good people) and when I came out there I was scared to death but in a poll, over 80% were supportive of me. and the great majority of those who disagreed did so respectfully and thoughtfully.


That's not to say there were not fools - but those fools were fools on a vairety of subjects before i came out.

For instance, this guy from the OP:

However, it is getting hard to ignore the poster called 'Jebus Cribbins' as he follows me around constantly making insulting and threatening posts aimed at me.

What you have here is your standard issue troll.

MAYBE the site is filled with hateful or intolerant people (I intend to give it a look in a sec) but you can't prove that one way or the other by this guy.

This is just ordinary boiler-plate trolling - virtually every board that doesn't have very draconian speech standards has one. Usually half a dozen.

Post Merge: September 19, 2009, 02:47:01 AM
Oh my lord that may be the lamest forum I've ever visited!!!

Seriously girl, there are SO many better options out there it boggles the mind.

I might not leave it for the sake of the trolls, but I'd sure leave it for being incredibly LAME.

[tekla]

The internet is a really cruel place.

It's only a shadow world, a very far away and pale representation of the real world, which is very brutally cruel.

[Princess Phoebe]

I used to play World of Warcraft avidly. I eventually told this person I had gotten to know very well that I was transgendered. We used to talk on Skype, and even gave each other game-time cards when we didn't have the money to pay for it ourselves.  Well, when we got into an argument about some stuff, she posted on our server's forums that I was transsexual, and she showed me her true face concerning the transsexual community.

I quit playing World of Warcraft. I know there are LGBT guilds, but if I have to restrict myself to solely that community, why even bother playing to be harassed by closed-minded jerks? It's like that on most of the internet. Just gotta pick our battles wisely, sometimes we can be supported, and other times, we're freaks and targets of discrimination. You just gotta remember one infallible rule of the internet, there is no responsibility for actions taken here. You can just hop on a different handle, and keep up with your bigotry.

I used to play World of Warcraft avidly. I eventually told this person I had gotten to know very well that I was transgendered. We used to talk on Skype, and even gave each other game-time cards when we didn't have the money to pay for it ourselves.  Well, when we got into an argument about some stuff, she posted on our server's forums that I was transsexual, and she showed me her true face concerning the transsexual community.

I quit playing World of Warcraft. I know there are LGBT guilds, but if I have to restrict myself to solely that community, why even bother playing to be harassed by closed-minded jerks? It's like that on most of the internet. Just gotta pick our battles wisely, sometimes we can be supported, and other times, we're freaks and targets of discrimination. You just gotta remember one infallible rule of the internet, there is no responsibility for actions taken here. You can just hop on a different handle, and keep up with your bigotry.

You are beautiful and real. You don't need this validation. I have done the exact same thing and it always leads to vitriole because the people involved are only experimenting and they want to deny what they feel and blame it on you. You are REAL. Please don't ever let anyone influence who you are

Post Merge: September 19, 2009, 04:28:56 PM
Fu_k haters

[cindybc]

Hi Tekla, you are quite right, they are shadows actually just typed words on a monitor, but for someone who spends allot of time on these contraption trying to build up who they truly are, are also very vulnerable and open to being hurt by someones remarks.

To that person who is just starting out can be very self conscious and sensitive to the image they are attempting to project, so the antagonist on his/her monitor can be quite real, as though the person was right in the room with them, pointing their antagonistic finger right at their nose, accusing them of what ever.

I have been at such places, TS or just regular groups and when the crap started hitting the fan I usually just removed myself from that group.

Goodness knows there are thousands of other message boards out there, each with their own characteristics and personality, some good, some bad. Pick the one you like. I myself have found this one about the best as far as TS sites go, although it is not without it's antagonists either.

Cindy