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Started by ceili, September 19, 2009, 06:00:31 AM

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ceili

Hi, I'm Ceili,

I'm very familiar with this forum though I've always lurked and never posted. Emelye knows me pretty well (Hi Emelye!!).

I'm a bit over two years into transition, one month post-op today and still recovering... Not sure what else to say. I'm a straight-shooter, no BS kind of girl, I'm pretty transparent about my transition, don't really plan to go stealth and after the last 8 months of taking a break from activism and lobbying, am back in the saddle despite some of my pre-op friends thinking I was going to go away post-op. I'll be honest, I tend to rub some people the wrong way because I do speak my mind, though I generally get along with everyone and try to speak my mind as tactfully as possible.

Post-transition my life has changed dramatically. Over the last two years I have lost family, had family members threaten my life, but made a lot of really great friends, watched my financial outlook get much better, I've grown immensely as a person and I am much happier.

That's about it...

Latahz!

~Ceili
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LivingInGrey

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K8

Welcome to Susan's, Celli.  Although I'm sure some people would like to see you fade away after your operation, I think it's great that you're going to stick around. :D

See you around the boards, hun. :)

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Janet_Girl

Hi Celli, :icon_wave:

Welcome to our little family. Over 3200 strong. That would be one heck of a family reunion.

Feel free to post your successes/failures, Hopes/dreams.  Ask questions and seek answers. Give and receive advice.

But remember we are family here, your family now. And it is always nice to have another sister. :icon_hug:

And be sure to check out

Blessed Be.
Janet
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ceili

Thank you for the welcomes :)

Very diverse community here, which is good.
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Robyn

Emelye will probably try to recruit you for wiki staff, but come on over to Chat and check us out.  We have at least three regional/national activists on Chat staff : Emelye, Marti and me.  And Susan pops in frequently. You might enjoy helping the members and visitors who frequent our little home. 

Congrats on the recent surgery.  That will keep you busy for awhile.  ;D

Robyn
When we walk to the edge of all the light we have and take the step into the darkness of the unknown, we must believe that one of two things will happen. There will be something solid for us to stand on or we will be taught to fly. — Patrick Overton
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Cadence Jean

Quote from: ceili on September 19, 2009, 06:00:31 AM
I'm a straight-shooter, no BS kind of girl

Then we'll get along fabulously!;)  Welcome to the forums!
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ceili

Quote from: Robyn on September 19, 2009, 11:38:45 AM
Emelye will probably try to recruit you for wiki staff, but come on over to Chat and check us out.  We have at least three regional/national activists on Chat staff : Emelye, Marti and me.  And Susan pops in frequently. You might enjoy helping the members and visitors who frequent our little home. 

Congrats on the recent surgery.  That will keep you busy for awhile.  ;D

Robyn

;D I think Emelye was trying to recruit me like a year ago before I ever joined. Actually I may have had an account here before but I never posted with it and I can't figure out what the username might have been. I've been "foruming" for many, many years -- in fact it was a web forum that played a large part in my finally being able to become true to myself, which ultimately led to transition. Long story I may share some time. When I first started transition, I found that most transgender forums, while they could be helpful with the technical things, fell short when it came to things like emotional and moral support. Too much "Our Way Or The Highway" mentality, cattiness and such. I found myself a small circle of friends and looked to them for most of my moral and emotional support.

Transition is a tough thing to accomplish and each individual really has to find their own way. Unfortunately I have seen and experienced over and over again where accomplished transitioners will criticize "newbies" for not doing things their way and peck them to death. For example, I got criticized over and over again for my method of voice training. I was told it would never work, that I should buy DVD's, that I was only going to damage my vocal cords, that I sounded bad, yada yada. Despite the criticism, I stuck to my method, which was just a compilation of things I gleaned from others and some ideas of my own. The end result is that I accomplished my goal despite the criticism. I doubt very seriously any of those who tried to force me to conform to their ways of doing things would criticize my voice now, a year and a half later.

I got the same thing when I went full time, over an issue with bathrooms where I worked. I made a compromise in order to keep the peace with my fellow female employees. The compromise, which was simply to use bathrooms made for other office space a few hundred feet away for a few months until my female coworkers became comfortable with my presence, worked well for me, yet I drew almost vitriolic criticism for doing so. I was told to "stand up for my rights" and if I didn't I was hurting those who would come up behind me in transitioning in the workplace. Well, my compromise was my idea, and partially because *I* didn't feel all that comfortable sharing a bathroom with my female co-workers just yet. I had to get used to sharing a bathroom with people I knew so well for so long. It worked well for me, yet I was criticized for not doing it someone else's way.

So that is why I have avoided forums for a long time now. You'll note that I mostly post things to encourage people in what they are doing, and if I offer advice or insight it is qualified with something like "JMO" (Just my opinion), "IMO" (In my opinion) or "YMMV" (Your mileage may vary). I don't pretend to know everything and along the way I have learned a LOT, but everyone's situation is different. Aside from that, any serious matter in one's life is best left to qualified, compatible psychiatric help and best not left to be determined or persuaded by the opinions of anonymous users of a message board.

That said, I in no way meant to sound critical of this forum or any other. To the contrary I think boards have their place. They are a very good stepping stone and a wealth of information and can be VERY helpful if done right, and this seems to be among the best. Pre-op I had too many of my own emotional issues to deal with to really be truly helpful to others outside of my own circle. I was extremely unhappy being pre-op and the goal of becoming post-op pretty much consumed most of my thoughts and the emotional energy I had left after family and work matters. Now I am post-op and I feel I can once again focus on others more than myself. I think the biggest thing I've learned along this path, thanks to many in my journey, is compassion for others, no matter where they are in their journey or where they are going.

Sorry for the chundering. You'll find I do that often.

~Ceili
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HelenW

Well, look who's here!  :)

Welcome back, ceili.  I hope you'll benefit from your presence here while you provide not only the knowledge you've been able to acquire through your transition but also the inspiration and hope that so many us trans people need.

And, by the way, more than one chat op started as wiki staff and then went to chat staff as well.  Most have been able to hold both jobs with little trouble, so don't let Robyn make you think it's only "one to a customer," LoL!

I'll be looking forward to seeing more from you in the future,

hugs & smiles
Emelye
FKA: Emelye

Pronouns: she/her

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ceili

Quote from: Emelye on September 20, 2009, 07:38:33 AM
Well, look who's here!  :)

Welcome back, ceili.  I hope you'll benefit from your presence here while you provide not only the knowledge you've been able to acquire through your transition but also the inspiration and hope that so many us trans people need.

And, by the way, more than one chat op started as wiki staff and then went to chat staff as well.  Most have been able to hold both jobs with little trouble, so don't let Robyn make you think it's only "one to a customer," LoL!

I'll be looking forward to seeing more from you in the future,

hugs & smiles
Emelye

Hi Emelye,

It's interesting, some of the feedback I've received here over the last few days. It seems there's the age-old "stealth or not stealth" argument prevalent here and that most here seem to look down on someone who decides to remain "out" after completing transition. >sigh<

I'm beginning to remember why I gave up transgender related message boards. With a few exceptions, transgender people, whether they be out, stealth, whatever, are some of the most catty, petty people I've ever dealt with. It's no wonder the transgender community can't get its sh*t together enough to even have a meaningful lobby to pass GENDA! I have more meaningful and less hostile conversations  with conservative radio talk show hosts.
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K8

Hi Ceili,
I think that we have to remember that transitioning is by necessity a very self-involved process.  I'm only five months RLE and already it is a little hard to remember how much I agonized about some things early on.  But my experience is that many on this forum are very supportive and helped me through those early difficulties.  And now, as I agonize about new things, they are helping me through these difficulties.

As we settle into our new role and become accustomed to being who we are, sometimes it is hard to remember that we, too, were afraid to tell anyone what was in our hearts.

As for the perennials, perhaps it is because there is no answer, or certainly no one-size-fits-all answer.  We struggle so hard to do what comes naturally to cis-gendered folk that we sometimes think that the solution we came up with is the solution for all of us.

Welcome back to the forum, Ceili.  It is good to have "old" gals on here along with the "new" people.  (And I guess that makes me "middle-aged". ::))

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Cadence Jean

Quote from: ceili on September 21, 2009, 07:25:07 AM
I'm beginning to remember why I gave up transgender related message boards. With a few exceptions, transgender people, whether they be out, stealth, whatever, are some of the most catty, petty people I've ever dealt with. It's no wonder the transgender community can't get its sh*t together enough to even have a meaningful lobby to pass GENDA! I have more meaningful and less hostile conversations  with conservative radio talk show hosts.

That may be part of what perpetuates the myth that transition is to satisfy one's own vanity - the vocal few are painting the wrong picture for us.  I've met some very supportive, sympathetic girls on this board.  In fact, I was surprised that I haven't received any negative posts in response to my own, since I have made some inflammatory statements(not to provoke, but simply because they're the truth for me).  So far, I have yet to meet any of the catty, petty people you've described, though I'm sure I'll run into them sooner or later.  There's always got to be some hecklers in the crowd!:)
to make more better goodness

I have returned to recording on TransByDef!  Watch us at: https://www.youtube.com/TransByDef
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Susan

Quote from: ceili on September 21, 2009, 07:25:07 AM
It's interesting, some of the feedback I've received here over the last few days. It seems there's the age-old "stealth or not stealth" argument prevalent here and that most here seem to look down on someone who decides to remain "out" after completing transition. >sigh<

I'm beginning to remember why I gave up transgender related message boards. With a few exceptions, transgender people, whether they be out, stealth, whatever, are some of the most catty, petty people I've ever dealt with. It's no wonder the transgender community can't get its sh*t together enough to even have a meaningful lobby to pass GENDA! I have more meaningful and less hostile conversations  with conservative radio talk show hosts.

I read approximately 1 in 500 introduction posts, so you have already won the lottery.  I am a big advocate that there is no such thing as stealth, informed consent with romantic partners, and I have frequently warned people for catty and petty behavior more than once.  So welcome to the site.

BTW we need more people who oppose that sort of attitude so don't go anywhere!
Susan Larson
Founder
Susan's Place Transgender Resources

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