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Bio-Identical Hormones

Started by Cadence Jean, September 07, 2009, 11:26:30 AM

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Cadence Jean

Forgive me if this topic has been brought up before.  I tried a forum search for it and didn't come up with anything, so here goes:

What do you girls out there think about bio-identical hormones?  Any experience with them?  Have you tried bioidenticals and synthetics, and liked one over the other?

I read about them in the waiting room at the med spa that I go to, and they sounded like they improved the mental and emotional well-being of some female celebrities(i.e. Oprah).  Of course, I take what a celebrity says with a grain of salt, so I'd like to hear what the typical (trans)woman's experience might be.  I'm contemplating starting HRT and if bio-identicals really are all that and a bag of chips, then I'd like to start out with them, which means I'd need to specifically request a referral to an endo who also sees their merits.
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Hannah

If you don't believe me then listen to Oprah:

"After one day on bioidentical estrogen, I felt the veil lift," Winfrey writes. "After three days, the sky was bluer, my brain was no longer fuzzy, my memory was sharper. I was literally singing and had a skip in my step."

That's pretty much what it's like too. You might feel a little medicated at first, but that's because the drugs needed to supress your testosterone are kind of grouchy until you get used to them. With bioidentical estradiol, once that passes you just feel, dare I say it, normal. It's the most fabulous thing, and there really aren't words to do it justice. You'll marvel at simple things which you never noticed before because of your testosterone dulled senses and emotions; the greenness of grass, the sound of a seagull, I even noticed smells in the wind that I hadn't before.

Don't mistake bio-identical for herbal, and stay out of the horse pee. Bioidentical estradiol isn't as hard on your liver, in fact being micronised you can dissolve it under your tounge and really give your liver a break while increasing the effectiveness at the same time. There's a lower risk of clots and depression and just about everything really. The same holds true on paper for bioidentical and micronised progesterone if you choose that path, I personally haven't used it (yet) so I can't vouch for it.

So to answer the question, yes bioidentical is the good stuff.



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Cadence Jean

Wow - I'd consider that a glowing review!  Have you considered writing for the drug companies, Becca?;)  I'd like to get some more feedback before I commit to finding an endo that prescribes them.  I'm not sure if my insurance differentiates between the two - it might not pay for them.  That would make it a moot point.

QuoteI even noticed smells in the wind that I hadn't before.

That would be awesome because it seems like ever since high school my sniffer has been broke.:T  Thanks for sharing, Becca - very informative!  And very enticing!  I don't want to move too quickly into something life altering, but the more you girls talk about how great HRT feels, the more I want to dive in!
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Hannah

Yeah it's pretty awesome. The flowery mood is gone though, replaced by storm clouds so I'm just staying home this week.

I think estradiol in general is bioidentical, and you can get it from any doctor who doesn't have a stick up their butt. The jury is pretty much back on Estradiol being fabulous, where the discussion goes on is in how to administer it, i.e. pills, gel, patches, injections, pellets and so on.

Testosterone supression is where it gets interesting. How were you thinking of going about that?

I would never work for a drug company. When I finish my masters I might spend a day a week working with trans people but I dunno yet, we'll see.
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FairyGirl

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aurora17

Bioidentical means that it's what your body should receive, or course.
I had horse pee and progestins in the past but it gave me headaches and depression.
Now I'm on estradiol (IM injections) and micronized progesterone instead, an I feel so much better !
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Cadence Jean

Oh, Becca - sorry to hear your glum.:T  I had a ->-bleeped-<-ter of a day today.  Dumped on with a rush project in the middle of the afternoon, that has no specifications, it just "needs to be done", and then I go to pick up my daughter for her first session of dance class, only to learn that she was dropped off by the school bus at my house instead of daycare - thank god her school teacher lives down the same road as us.  She saw my daughter dutifully walking to daycare and picked her up!  Talk about feeling powerless.  I had a good cry over that one.:'(

Whew - guess I needed to get that off my chest.  Anyway, hope things start coming up daisies for you again!  I'll do some research into estradiol - from what you and Aurora have said, it sounds like the way to go.  I guess which delivery method seems to get the best reviews?

I have not even gotten as far as androgen suppression with my contemplation.  Does it make a big difference what you go with?  I was kind of thinking of just going with the doctor's recommendations, but if you have any input, I'd love to hear it!

Aurora, I've read some postings about the debate of whether or not progesterone helps with breast development.  Have you noticed any other perks to being on it?  Isn't it the same hormone that genetic women begin producing during pregnancy?
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aurora17

Quote from: calliope on September 09, 2009, 08:08:03 PM

Aurora, I've read some postings about the debate of whether or not progesterone helps with breast development.  Have you noticed any other perks to being on it?  Isn't it the same hormone that genetic women begin producing during pregnancy?

Indeed, it is, and it's also a hormon produced by males as well.
I use it because of its possible effects on "firm" breast development, as well as its possible health benefits, as well as its lack of negative secondary effects.
So far, I don't see any drawback to it. Of course I'm not sure of its effects on breast development, but my intuition tells me that since pregnant women have tons of it in their blood and at the same time experience breast maturation, it might have some positive impact.
We'll see after a feww years...
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Hannah

Quote from: FairyGirl on September 08, 2009, 10:15:58 PM
LOL I heartily agree!

Oh goodness, what a group we belong to that has to warn it's newcomers against ingesting horse urine. Sorry, it just struck me as a unique trait, lol.

For your estradiol research you might go to a wal-mart pharmacy and ask for their little patient data sheet on it. I spent a few months researching everythng that is basically on those pages.
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