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The Bugis’ Five Genders

Started by KYLYKaHYT, February 09, 2009, 04:44:02 PM

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imaz

Quote from: Rebis on February 17, 2009, 10:30:06 AM
I thought the video only represented one fairly well isolated tribe.

Indeed, that was the point I was making. Things are getting worse all the time for LGBT people in Indonesia :)
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Kinkly

not much is said about what defines the 5th gender
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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KYLYKaHYT

Quote from: Kinkly on February 26, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
not much is said about what defines the 5th gender

Maybe the fifth one is the elusive genderless gender... which just might be a wee bit too much for most people to wrap their minds around.   ???  ::)
ƃuoɹʍ llɐ ʇno əɯɐɔ ʇɐɥʇ
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Shana A

Quote from: Kinkly on February 26, 2009, 10:53:09 PM
not much is said about what defines the 5th gender

It can be whatever we want it to be  ;D

Z
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Kinkly

Quote from: Zythyra on February 27, 2009, 08:49:36 AM
It can be whatever we want it to be  ;D

Z
I agree but
they sayed male, female, non transitioning MtF&FtM,and the priest who is both. are all people who fit this gender boud to be a priest is it possible for other genders to become a priest?
insted of the two gender system we live in they have 5 boxes I wonder if i'd fit in any of them I dout it
I don't want to be a man there from Mars
I'd Like to be a woman Venus looks beautiful
I'm enjoying living on Pluto, but it is a bit lonely
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Shana A

Sulawesi's fifth gender 

What if there were not just two genders, but five? In Indonesia, there are
Sharyn Graham

I first went to Sulawesi in August 1998 on a reconnaissance trip to determine if this would be an interesting place to study gender relations. I had read a little about gender in Sulawesi, encouraged by my supervisors Dr Greg Acciaioli and Dr Lyn Parker, but I was not quite prepared for the richness of Bugis gender identities. In Australia we tend to assume that there are only two genders, woman and man, and two matching biological sexes, female and male. The Bugis acknowledge three sexes (female, male, hermaphrodite), four genders (women, men, calabai, and calalai), and a fifth meta-gender group, the bissu.

'Bissu' tends to be translated as '->-bleeped-<- priest', but this term is less than satisfactory. ->-bleeped-<- implies cross-dressing, but bissu have their own distinctive clothing. Moreover, bissudo not go from one gender to another; they are a combination of all genders. To become a bissu, one must be born both female and male, or hermaphroditic. (To be precise, the Bugis believe that a bissu who appears externally male is internally female, and vice versa). This combination of sexes enables a 'meta-gender' identity to emerge.

rest of article here
http://www.insideindonesia.org/content/view/484/29/

"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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Miyabi

Thank you for posting this.

It was very interesting to see.
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