The Predator Strikes

[Alex_C]

That guy is weird, what's wrong with him? I wonder if there are any unsolved rapes in your area?

[Jushi]

That guy is weird, what's wrong with him? I wonder if there are any unsolved rapes in your area?

Oh my, thats aweful.. Lets hope not.

I've only had little experience with '->-bleeped-<-s' in life. I don't go out much.
Met Plenty online though. They're hillariously confident on the internet 

[Cindy]

I have this creepy as ->-bleeped-<- coworker who occasionally just talks about raping women. Said he wanted to be a womens' prison guard to do it, and the other day this woman walks by carrying a baby and he goes "Damn that bitch is fine what you say we follow her into the bathroom, knock her out and rape her?"


Ah this does not sound normal.

Is there any chance of reporting to the police? This sounds way beyond a sick joke.

IMO
Cindy



Somehow I see the first HR complaint I make if/when I transition at work being against him. Luckily the prison comment was made in front of a very well respected professional coworker so it'd be supported if I had to show a history.

[V M]

I've only experienced a few trans ->-bleeped-<-s. At the time I was oblivious as to what they wanted and didn't understand why they were interested in me. I wasn't thinking about transition at the time.

Now learning more and reflecting back I'm glad I wasn't raped. But I wasn't afraid of much then.

One guy pulled out a large hunting knife. Before he could say anything, I said "Oh cool" and grabbed it out of his hand and started to play about with it.
He kept grabbing at it saying something about me hurting myself. But clumsy me, I accidentally dropped it and it got stuck in his leg, all the way into the seat cushion of his truck.

For some reason he wanted me to leave and took off in his pick up.

I offered to help him with it

[Autumn]

I actually think it probably is pretty normal in poorly educated, ghetto-idolizing, misogynistic young men.

[jesse]

i think you should report him now he may already be operating and he's definately demonstrating a hatred towards women
jessica

[V M]

You probably should report him if you are still able to do so. I def. don't want anyone to end up with some of the folks I've had to deal with.

I'm older and hopefully a bit wiser now plus most folk where I live now are rather religious so I don't get hit on as much. Figures, now that I've learned to recognize it better 

[Julie Marie]

Somehow I see the first HR complaint I make if/when I transition at work being against him.

The company I used to work for encouraged sexual harassment to be filed by anyone who witnesses it against anyone who is in violation of company policy.  Check your company's policy.  You can probably go ahead and file the complaint yourself right now.  You allowing such talk to go unchecked will only encourage this jerk to keep doing it and someday he may act on it.

Julie

[kelliBennett]

See... I don't necessarily agree with this sentiment.  I'm not saying you specifically think like a man nor Julie who first made the comment, but in my experience, enough of the trans population does (again speaking from meeting people in RL) that ->-bleeped-<-s have success.  They also have success with TS's needing to validate themselves as females - and the ->-bleeped-<- is all too willing to oblige.

I'm not saying there aren't girls out there who want to validate themselves and I am not saying the ->-bleeped-<- won't oblige them. Most women will not go for the crude, creepy, rude approach. Which it seems a lot of ->-bleeped-<-s attempt. Or worse still CDs who pretend (as in Julies story) to be something they are not only in an effort to 'get some'.

It is when I am approached by someone dressed or attempting to dress as a woman, but obviously acting like a man that I get disturbed.

Having seen a lot of men who take the crude approach I understand it is out there. Doesn't mean I like it.

[Alex_C]

OK I'm gonna venture a theory ..... many guys feel that ciswomen are "hard to get" so the more frustrated types, with more suppressed or not-so-suppressed anger may turn to transwomen as an "easier to get" alternative, but express anger both at themselves for not being able to get a ciswoman, and also at the transwoman for two things: Being a woman, and yet "being someone pretending to be a woman". All in all it's a lot of anger floating around!

Virginia - wow that knife thing ouch! But I'm sure you saved your own life and gave that guy something to think about. I've just had a small bite, a Doberman gave me a little one where two fangs just kinda went in and met, pretty mild as dog bites go, and they had to go in and clean it, and it hurt like heck for a while. That guy's not gonna be able to walk for a while.

[V M]

Virginia - wow that knife thing ouch! But I'm sure you saved your own life and gave that guy something to think about. I've just had a small bite, a Doberman gave me a little one where two fangs just kinda went in and met, pretty mild as dog bites go, and they had to go in and clean it, and it hurt like heck for a while. That guy's not gonna be able to walk for a while.

Yeah, that was about ten years ago before I'd even considered transitioning. But I guess I've always had a fem. persona. Probably his scare tactics had worked on others before. I know I was afraid.

Do you know the ally between the Irish pub and the corner liquor store? Right there behind the liquor store. I think the area has been closed off since. To much stuff was going on around that whole area

I miss Santa Cruz in some ways. Allot of cool folks. Allot of jerks though too

[Julie Marie]

OK I'm gonna venture a theory ..... many guys feel that ciswomen are "hard to get" so the more frustrated types, with more suppressed or not-so-suppressed anger may turn to transwomen as an "easier to get" alternative, but express anger both at themselves for not being able to get a ciswoman, and also at the transwoman for two things: Being a woman, and yet "being someone pretending to be a woman". All in all it's a lot of anger floating around!

My own personal experience, coupled with conversations I've had with those in the LBGT community, tells me there are several types of men who are interested in TGs:
1. Men who are gay but can't accept it so they go after gay men in drag (the illusion).
2. Men who are bi or curious and just like the variety.
3. Men who find post-op women a better choice over natal women.  (Think: more in common)
4. Men who are looking to stick their thing in any hole they can find.
5. Men who need a team of shrinks to figure what the hell is going on inside that head.

There's more I'm sure but that covers most of them.

And, of course, all this does nothing to help the woman who just wants to find a man who is interested in her for who she is.  It's the hetero woman's challenge, no matter what their birth gender.

Julie

[Alex_C]

Virginia my fave bar in Santa Cruz is the Blue Lagoon,  Dive! Dive!

I've heard the Asti's worse though, I think it'd be funny to make an "N" just the right size color and typeface and install it on their sign, so it says "Nasti" lol.

[V M]

  Folks called it the Nasty when I was there too. It seems like almost every place had some kind of nick name though 

[Julie Wilson]

Last night Julie and I did something we rarely do, we went to a popular TG monthly meeting.  It's held at a bar just outside of Chicago and has a mix of CDs, TGs and, in the case of last night's attendees, TSs.  And there's also the occasional ->-bleeped-<-.

I don't mean for this to sound callused but women go to bars to hook up with men (or lesbians).  That is essentially what a bar is for.  The ->-bleeped-<- was just doing the bar thing.

I am guessing the bar was a gay bar.  If you were a "->-bleeped-<-" and if you wanted to meet a chick with a d!ck, where would you go to find one?

I was noticing today how all the terms we use on these types of forums have been borrowed from the gay community.  "Coming out of the closet."  "Stealth", "Passing"... are all terms that have their roots in the gay community and like you mentioned it was a smorgasbord of "identities" meeting at the bar.  Have you wondered why when broad-spectrum "T"s get together why alcohol, drugs and sex are so frequently involved?

There used to be a group of people who were born with a birth defect and that birth defect had to do with being born with the wrong genitals and consequently developing the wrong secondary sexual characteristics and having the wrong life.  Now it seems a lot more like a party.  We mingle with men who like girls who have penises and we have adopted gay terminologies to describe ourselves.

We blame the ->-bleeped-<- who is attracted to us or worse yet not us but rather our girlfriend because it always feel bad to get dissed in favor of someone else.  Because of how we have adopted being gay (inclusion in the rainbow), we are viewed by Society as gay men, which is what we define ourselves as  by hanging out in gay bars, by marching in pride parades, by adopting and using gay terminologies to describe ourselves.

Is it any wonder we can't get a birth certificate change in Texas anymore?

When will we begin to take responsibility for our lives?  "We" as in whoever this applies to...

[heatherrose]

There is nothing wrong with being attracted to someone who is gender variant.
It is socially and mentally deficient for a "->-bleeped-<-" to assume that a gender
variant person is an object that exists solely for their sexual release.

[sd]

I was noticing today how all the terms we use on these types of forums have been borrowed from the gay community.  "Coming out of the closet."  "Stealth", "Passing"... are all terms that have their roots in the gay community and like you mentioned it was a smorgasbord of "identities" meeting at the bar.

Probably because we are all a part of the same community and have been for quite some time. And not just for the obvious LGBT community thing, but because many of our identities are also LGB, almost all of us either before or after transition was a part of that community, unless you are one f those who happen to be "hetero" before and hetero after due to a shift in sexuality.

[Julie Marie]

I don't mean for this to sound callused but women go to bars to hook up with men (or lesbians).  That is essentially what a bar is for.  The ->-bleeped-<- was just doing the bar thing.

I'm in a relationship so I go to bars to have a drink with my SO and enjoy my time with her.  Besides, I learned a long time ago that bars are the worst place to meet someone.

We went because it was a monthly meeting of TGs.  Yes, we were the only post-op girls there but I met a lot of these girls long before I began my transition and I hadn't seen them in a while.

Most women will tell you any man who thinks a woman is in a bar to be picked up needs to be avoided.  Guys who think girls want them to pick them up are usually not worth the time of day.  And a guy who dresses like a woman in order to ingratiate himself with TGs in the hopes of getting laid is a creep.

Julie

[sd]

I don't mean for this to sound callused but women go to bars to hook up with men (or lesbians).  That is essentially what a bar is for.  The ->-bleeped-<- was just doing the bar thing.

No.

People go to bars to relax, socialize, dance, watch sports, etc...
Not everyone goes to a bar just to meet someone.

[Jushi]

Bars aren't just for "hooking up"... Only those interested in nothing else would think so