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Started by Walter, October 10, 2009, 05:20:36 PM

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Walter

Anyone have parents that just love to stereotype your physical gender? I don't know if my mom enjoys doing this, but she does it almost every chance she gets. We got on the subject of showering a couple days ago. I had mentioned how I bathe so often. My mom then says "Well you're a girl. You're not supposed to stink". I guess she's used to being around guys who stunk of BO (body odor) or something. But..seriously. This isn't the only thing she's said. On one occasion we were unpacking groceries and my brother came in to help. I was tired and in pain if I remember correctly and I said something like "It's good to have an extra set of hands helping". My mom goes on to say "Yes it's good to have a man helping. They're strong" or something like that. I tried to mentally stomp on my anger so I wouldn't let it loose. But I'm so SICK OF THIS. WHY does my mom do this? Does she KNOW that it pisses me off so she does it more? My parents will never realize what being transgendered is or anything but why can't they cut back on the stereotyping? It sickens me.

On a sort of different subject

Last year in October or November there was this gender community thing going on in my town. The advertisement for it was really vague so I didn't pay any attention to it, thinking it was something unrelated to my interests. I've been telling my mom how if there was a Transgender community thing going on in town that I wanted to go to it. She keeps asking me "Did you find out anything about the gender community thing?" which is good. It would be wonderful if my mom would take me one of these community get-togethers if they have one in town....BUT here's another issue. I've never been to any kind of Transgender get-together meet-up thing, so I'm not sure if this happens. But say if I went to one and someone came up to me and asked me what my "male" name was, right now it is Walter. And knowing my mom, she's gonna be following me around the whole time  :icon_poke:. Maybe striking up conversation with other people but I don't know. Anyway, if she hears me say "Walter" as my name she's probably going to say "OMG that's the name of the guy in your game (Silent Hill 4). Couldn't you think of something else for a name?" then I'm just gonna facepalm and scream on the inside. And even if I didn't say Walter, most of the names I pick for myself are usually related to some kind of game. Vincent from FF7, Robert from Clock Tower 3 (she probably wouldn't know that one gladly, but if she asks where I got it from, I guess I'll tell her. I use this name a lot other than Walter), Alfred from Resident Evil so she'd probably know where I got the names from and that's kind of embarrassing. I mean...come on...they have other relations other than video games (I can't believe I just said that). This gender rant kind of went nowhere...I'm sorry :icon_sadblinky:

~Walter (edited because I'm still indecisive sry :()
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Calistine

Damn right they do. my mom insists that I liked being a girl because I had a boyfriend and liked him(yet, almost every other love interest ive had was a girl, and she knows this).
She says that Im sensitive so I cant be a boy.
Parents will say ANYTHING to prove you are not your target gender.
And by the way, it doesnt matter where the name you choose comes from.
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Walter

One time when I tried to convince my mom that I was male or for me to be treated like a male, she lost her temper and when we got home she said "You want to be treated like a male, then I'll have dad treat you the same he treated your brother. Find a job by the time you're 18 or you're out of the house"

Pretty harsh, huh? All just because I'm male. Just because I want to be treated like a male doesn't mean I want to be treated like a piece of trash
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Calistine

Quote from: Walter on October 10, 2009, 05:25:03 PM
One time when I tried to convince my mom that I was male or for me to be treated like a male, she lost her temper and when we got home she said "You want to be treated like a male, then I'll have dad treat you the same he treated your brother. Find a job by the time you're 18 or you're out of the house"

Pretty harsh, huh? All just because I'm male. Just because I want to be treated like a male doesn't mean I want to be treated like a piece of trash
I dont have a brother so I wouldnt experience that but that is harsh. Well as I am going closer to full time(im about 50%-75% right now) my parents will hopefully realize that they cannot tell me who I identify as male too. One of my friends told her mom I was a boy and that my name is Kyle. If my parents dont like it thats not my problem.
My mom says she feels like im dying, but Im only coming alive. I was never a happy or comfortable girl and she knows that. Its hard for them to accept and thats fine but tolerance is the least they can do.
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Walter

That sucks :/ Well at least you going towards your goal without your parents getting in your way
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Northern Jane

Lots of parents do it Walter - I think it is part of them holding on to their dreams for us. I know my mother did it (back at the end of the last ice age LOL!). As a teen I couldn't pass as a boy but my mother turned a blind eye to all of it, denied it all, simply would NOT see it.
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Walter

I guess parents get used to their kid being a "girl" or "boy". They don't like to see it change but...sheesh. It gets old when I try to tell them they just lose their temper thinking I'm just a lesbian
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Ali Noir

QuoteIts hard for them to accept and thats fine but tolerance is the least they can do.

That probably sums up the advice I would give. :]
xoxo
xoxo
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Walter

I just did some research and there's a GLBT community in my town. It says that anyone is welcome and I guess it's open all year round. I was really happy to see this..and since my mom knows how I really want to go to one of these I don't think she'd have a problem taking me. But then the name issue still remains  :-\ If she hears me say Walter, that'll be...pretty weird. But yeah..
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Calistine

Quote from: Walter on October 10, 2009, 07:28:19 PM
If she hears me say Walter, that'll be...pretty weird. But yeah..
I think you should know your name before she does XD
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Walter

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K8

Your mom sounds like she is trying very hard to convice herself you aren't a guy.  This is something she is having trouble dealing with, so she keeps bringing up the gender stereotyping.  But you and I and the rest of us here at Susan's know that people don't always fit into those gender stereotypes very well. :P

I don't know how old you are or your situation, but is it possible for you to go to the GLBT group without your mom?  Even if it is impossible for you to get there on your own, perhaps you can figure out something for her to do on her own between when she drops you off and picks you up.

I go to a trans support group now and then.  Most of us there are college-age and above.  But there's a LG groupd that meets at the same time that is almost all jr. high through early college.  If you can get to a group like that you will meet lots of people like yourself - new to the group and wondering if you will fit in.

Good luck, sweetie.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Teknoir

Video character named guy - There's nothing wrong with being named after a video game character if the name means something to you.

For every name you pick, there will always be someone who doesn't like it. You can't live to please everyone (and really, it's your name not theirs).

Don't worry about names at a meet anyway. Yeah, people will ask - but "I haven't decided yet" is perfectly ok.

People that are in disbelief will dislike any name you choose. It's part of the whole "change" thing to them.

People also tend to dislike names from video games in general. Something about society not seeing them as a valid artform yet I'd imagine. You could try saying you're named after a character in a book, or you're not named after anyone in particular - you just liked the name.
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Walter

Most people I've talked to (online) dislike the name Walter. I'm sure if I met someone face to face and they found out it was Walter, I doubt they'd think of Silent Hill 4. I agree that the people in disbelief will dislike any name I pick anyway.

And I thought of that being the cause she does the stereotyping, K8. But knowing my mom, I think she'll never think I'm a guy. She only goes by gender on what's between the person's legs..
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Cloudrot

Okay, so about names. I had a different boy name picked out before I chose "Asher" and I went by that one for about... Three months. When I switched to the one I have now, I had a -lot- of people tell me that they liked the old name better, but what's important to me is that I like the name Asher. It's -your- name so choose whatever you're most comfortable with, don't worry about other people. I don't see a problem with the name Walter, if you like names from video game characters, go for it. I think the most important thing about a name is if you can picture people calling you that for the rest of your life, which is why it can be so hard to choose.

As far as stereotyping goes, I actually have the opposite problem with a lot of family members (and friends too actually), it's like they expect me to be super-macho "now that I'm a guy" and they're always telling me to cut my hair, or that I shouldn't straighten it because it's "more boyish" curly (I loathe it curly, I wouldn't if it were a lot longer but it has to get there first.) and they criticize the way I walk, and talk, and they tell me I should grow out my sideburns, and everything else. It really bugs me. So I'm not super masculine, I never claimed to be, I don't even want to be. I'm not going through all the trouble of transitioning so I can continue to be something I'm not. :/
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Walter

Bleh..yeah being expected to be "macho" would suck. I know if I ever convinced my mom I was a guy she'd expect me to be macho too. I've tried telling her that just because I feel male doesn't mean I want to cut my hair short and date girls. I dunno..*headdesk*
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findingreason

Ugh :/ you have my sympathies. My mother is the same way. She knows all about me, but keeps telling me things like "*male name* you'll always be a son to me" and such. It really is annoying, like they're not even listening :(

The only thing I guess is just keep standing up for yourself in this case, which I think I should do eventually...but haven't because I still fire doubts at myself, lol.


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DamagedChris

I actually stereotype the sexes myself sadly without thinking of it sometimes...like with relationships I like 'wearing the pants in the relationship' and prefer to act in ways that would fall into stereotypical 'good man' behavior...like as a man I'm expected to open doors for women, be chivalrous and all that jazz...so I just do. Not solely because it's a "man thing" to do, but because I like acting that way. Bonus, it makes it a little easier convincing my relatives because they see the behaviors that they attribute to my true gender. And hell, I love being 'macho'.

On the opposite side, my soon-becoming ex-boyfriend generally goes out of his way to point out times when I was happy that I acted 'girly'--freaked out at a spider, or giggled at something, or even just didn't object to being a "girlfriend".
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Walter

I stereotype sexes too...but I think it's because my family has rubbed off on me.

I broke up with my g/f a few days ago because she kept using the female things with me. A little too much for my liking
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