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Im complaining about my chest.

Started by Calistine, October 19, 2009, 07:35:03 PM

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Calistine

So yeah as most of you know I dont have a binder, my mom is holding on to it because she has it set in her mind that Im going to change my mind. I tried to make lemons out of lemonade by wearing a sports bra and loose shirts. Its hardly working. I resorted to ace bandage but eh it ripped when I took it off. Maybe I got the wrong kind :/
So yeah until I get that settled my technique for hiding is not working. I may not look like I have boobs but I look fat and like my body has chunks. Someone pointed out that I had boobs. Its embarassing. I resort to slouching and thats just going to give me bad posture. Uggh..what to do..
Also, I met a transgirl in real life. Shes giving me her boys clothes and im giving her my girls clothes XD
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DamagedChris

I remember before I got my first binder I actually used a large ACE backbrace for it. Uncomfortable, and I hate velcro things as binders...but easier to adjust on the fly in case something goes badly wrong. ACE bandages never worked well for me...I do a lot of running and they fall out of place way too easy.
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sneakersjay

I just spent 5 days at Disney and believe me, there were tons of men in all shapes, sizes, and ages, and I'd say most except for the lean and fit had man boobs.  Seriously.  I took notice.  Even guys who weren't necessarily heavy  had moobs.  Very, very few flat chests out there.  So if you've got any meat to you, some lumps in that location is pretty much the norm out there.  So while we're overly self concious about any hint of moobs, if the rest of you is passing, I wouldn't worry too much about binding them so flat you can't breathe.  The only difference I noticed between what my bound moobs looked like and male unbound moobs in the general public: i could usually see their nipple bumps (most men were wearing tee shirts without undershirt tee shirts).

Lots of people watching!

FWIW.


Jay


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Radar

Quote from: sneakersjay on October 20, 2009, 07:21:44 AM
...there were tons of men in all shapes, sizes, and ages, and I'd say most except for the lean and fit had man boobs. Seriously. I took notice. Even guys who weren't necessarily heavy had moobs. Very, very few flat chests out there. So if you've got any meat to you, some lumps in that location is pretty much the norm out there.
I've never noticed before but I have been since I started binding. I'm actually surprised that, yes, it seems most men have something. Even ones you wouldn't expect!

I'm still self-conscience and wish I was flat, flat, flat, but that won't happen until top surgery. However, I have noticed the T making my moobs smaller and breaking down tissue/fat. :) But, there's the problem of one moob being quite bigger than the other (always has). So, one side I'm O.K. with when binding but the other side screams "look at me!" :P
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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Calistine

Quote from: sneakersjay on October 20, 2009, 07:21:44 AM
I just spent 5 days at Disney and believe me, there were tons of men in all shapes, sizes, and ages
Just because you need to go to disney to realize these things XD
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childofwinter

I think most biomen I know - including myself - have some sort of moob. Men, like women, have breast tissue but our breasts don't grow (as much) like women's breasts.
I have no concrete idea of my gender identity, but I believe I am an Androgyne.
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Silver

My mother immigrated here from her country some years ago. One thing she still doesn't approve of: "American men all have boobs!"
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YoungSoulRebel

Quote from: childofwinter on October 20, 2009, 01:54:50 PM
I think most biomen I know - including myself - have some sort of moob. Men, like women, have breast tissue but our breasts don't grow (as much) like women's breasts.
This is true.

And hey, OP, I'm honestly not trying to turn this into "suffering olympics", but more trying to offer a "look on the bright side" sort of alternative -- before my chest surgery, I was wearing a 38-K bra and absolutely could not bind.  I sympathise with your situation and agree it could be better, but it could also be a lot worse.

Sorry I don't have any real advice, aside from "hang in there and brainstorm".
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Radar

Quote from: YoungSoulRebel on October 21, 2009, 07:24:30 PM
I was wearing a 38-K bra and absolutely could not bind.
Size K? :o I didn't even know that existed.
"In this one of many possible worlds, all for the best, or some bizarre test?
It is what it is—and whatever.
Time is still the infinite jest."
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YoungSoulRebel

Quote from: Radar on October 22, 2009, 07:22:55 AM
Size K? :o I didn't even know that existed.
That it does.  The cups fit over my head.

But it's kind of a non-issue now and my spine is more grateful than the rest of me that I've had surgery, I'm sure.
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Alex_C

OK looking at my own moobs  :P I see that the thing that makes 'em look not male is the extra bit over on the sides next to my arms. It that weren't there, they'd just look like any muscular guy's pecs, fitting in with my muscular arms and legs.

Soooo .... I wonder if we've been thinking in the wrong direction with this binding? Trying to mash stuff flat instead of controlling and shaping?

BTW yes man-nips are visible everywhere t-shirts are worn.
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Jay

I have actual moobs and to be honest I fit in about 99% more than having an actual flat chest..

Says something about britian eh?

Jay


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sneakersjay

I'm home finally!  More than 2600 miles of driving.  Yikes!

Anyway for the first time ever on vacation I was comfortable just being me.  All of the other times I've gone away in F mode I had all this anxiety about my looks, how frumpy/fat/messy hair/ugly etc and was always looking at the ladies and how more pulled together a lot of them looked, even when having kids in tow!  Always comparing myself and wondering why I just didn't fit in, why nice clothes made my skin crawl, etc.

This time I was very relaxed and was obviously man watching -- what were the guys doing?  The dads of little ones all seemed hen-pecked and couldn't do anything right according to their wives (do this, don't do that, open this, take this, push that -- they all looked glazed over!).  Then I was noticing the array of body shapes and sizes of guys.  The large percentage of guys with moobs.  Guys with hips.  Hip guys with the latest fashion.  Dressed down comfortable guys (like me).  I was carrying a large camera bag (was NOT wearing a fanny pack!!) and noticing what other guys were carrying.  Most had backpacks (I didn't want to carry something that big), camera bags, or messenger bags.  A few did have fanny packs!

I know we're all so self conscious about our bodies and trying to get them masculine.  Once T works on the facial features and fat re-distribution, a lot of guys do have hips, moobs, spotty facial hair, etc.

Jay


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Alex_C

Were these cisguys you were watching?

I agree, I need to do more man-watching.
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Jay

Quote from: sneakersjay on October 22, 2009, 01:55:28 PM

I know we're all so self conscious about our bodies and trying to get them masculine.  Once T works on the facial features and fat re-distribution, a lot of guys do have hips, moobs, spotty facial hair, etc.

Jay

Very true, my personal trainer said to me that there is no two people with the same exact bodies.. we all are different shapes and sizes..
I do still think its all in your confidence..

Jay


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sneakersjay

Quote from: Alex_C on October 22, 2009, 11:46:35 PM
Were these cisguys you were watching?

I agree, I need to do more man-watching.

I was at Disney World and its associated theme parks. I'm sure the majority were cis-men.  If there were any FTMs they did not stand out from the other men.


Jay


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