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How to explain to my mom about more, ahem, physical aspects of dysphoria?

Started by Ryuu, September 27, 2009, 12:59:43 PM

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Ryuu

So I've been talking to my mom and her GF about being transgender. They're trying to help, I know they are. But some of the things they say can be really frustrating. They say stuff like "when I was your age I didn't like my body either, blah blah blah, maybe that's what you're feeling?" But it's not. They might have disliked their breasts, periods, stuff like that. But they never wanted to have a male body, never wished they had a penis, nothing like that. I'm pretty sure of that. But I'm not really sure how to explain stuff like that to them without getting graphic. I mean, who wants to talk about stuff like that to their parents? ::) How can I explain stuff like that without it being weird and awkward?
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Arch

Perhaps you can substitute some euphemisms. I like the word "equipment." You could say something like, "I know that lots of people aren't satisfied with their bodies, but they usually just wish that the body that they do have were thinner or curvier or more muscular or better proportioned. These people may be unhappy, but they DON'T want to have different equipment altogether. I do."

Of course, then they might say, "What exactly do you mean by equipment?" At which point you could specify that cisgender women are usually happy to be women and have female equipment; they don't want male equipment. And so on.

Do they know the difference between physical sex and brain sex/gender?

Or you could just direct them to the wiki here at Susan's.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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Between Names

It will only feel weird and awkward if you make it feel that way.  There really isn't language to use to describe dysphoria other than adult language.  (Unless you want to use the word "wee-wee" at any time during the conversation.  xD)

But your mom is an adult, and this is a serious topic...  So you should be able to have an adult conversation with her.  Just try not to feel awkward.

I know it can be hard, yes.  I'm still a teenager too, and I've been talking with my mom about being trans as well.  Luckily the subject of genitalia hasn't come up yet.  ;P

Edit:  Oh yeah!  And what Arch said about the word "equipment" works really well too.  Of course my mom is a no-nonsense kind of person and asks right away what I mean by "equipment." 
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Adam

I have a hard time talking about stuff like that as well. I'm one of those people who don't bring it up and avoid it if it is.

Though I think Arch's advice is good. I may even apply it if I feel I ever need to explain it.
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Ryuu

Arch, I think Maria (my mom's GF) at least knows the difference. I'm not sure about my mom.
But I honestly never noticed the wiki!!! Thank you! :D
I suppose that's an idea. Maybe I'll try it next time I talk to them.
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Arch

Quote from: Aaron22 on September 27, 2009, 02:01:53 PM
But I honestly never noticed the wiki!!! Thank you! :D

I didn't either, when I started coming here. I was so tha-rilled to find the forums that I just jumped in first and looked around later. :D
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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Dante

That's funny, my dad & mom said the same thing to me, even though I talked to them separately.  :eusa_doh:

I would go with Arch's idea of using words like 'equipment' to describe sensitive material. I know it's awkward to talk to your parents about stuff like that (I can't even talk to them because when the topic comes up, I'm in tears or get into tears somewhere during the conversation.). Just try to explain it to them like that, if you can.

Quote from: Arch on September 27, 2009, 02:24:20 PM
I didn't either, when I started coming here. I was so tha-rilled to find the forums that I just jumped in first and looked around later. :D

Same for me.  :D





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Elijah3291

just try to tell them how it feels for you not to have a penis

maybe explain to them that, you feel like you should have a penis, but you are left with a vagina that you don't identify with, its not that you are uncomfortable with your body.. as they say.. its that you feel it isn't what it should be.

sorry this answer isnt to good, but I wanted to at least try

when I came out to my mom the genitals topic came up, and she said something along the lines "you really want a penis?" and she made a grossed out face.  and I replied "yes, very much so, I think vaginas are gross and I don't like them" or something like that.. I think i offended her lol (I forgot she had a vagina when I said it) and she said "well, I'm sad that you feel that way"
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Ryuu

Quote from: Elijah3291 on October 27, 2009, 12:07:13 AM
when I came out to my mom the genitals topic came up, and she said something along the lines "you really want a penis?" and she made a grossed out face.  and I replied "yes, very much so, I think vaginas are gross and I don't like them" or something like that.. I think i offended her lol (I forgot she had a vagina when I said it) and she said "well, I'm sad that you feel that way"

I never said I don't like 'em. ;) Just not on me.
But yeah, I think she understands now. Maybe. Possibly. (She said the same thing though, "I'm sad you feel that way". Seriously, does she think I'm not sadder? >.< )
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YoungSoulRebel

Eh...  my mother was a nurse, so while I can understand not wanting to get into graphic anatomical discussions with one's parents, I may have a skewed perception about how possible those discussions with one's parents actually are, if that makes sense.  But yeah, I suggest that using euphemists may at least be the best way to ease them into this sort of discussion, but if they still aren't getting it, then just say what you've said in your original post -- it makes the most sense and even people who aren't nurses would know what it means.

That said, parents are just generally pretty hard to explain this kind of thing to.  I never had to "come out" to my parents about this cos 1) my mother has been out of the picture since I was twelve, and she seemed to just brush off all the weird things I did and said as a kid, and the obvious gender identity incongruence was probably just "another one of the weird things the weird kid says" to her.  My father died when I was twenty-one, and he obviously picked up on enough to know that I'm "not really a girl", as far as social conventions go, but enough other things to know that I'm "not a lesbian" (and knowing him, he was glad of this).
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DamagedChris

I've had less of an issue with talking about the subject in general as much as insisting that having a penis isn't JUST sex-driven...my aunt for example seems to think that it just makes me a really, really butch lesbian (she also implied that most lesbians bind...not sure where she got that idea). I have a hard time putting what I mean into words, that it's less about the sex aspects and more a feeling of a missing limb. 
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