Top surgery and changing your gender marker in Pennsylvania

[IanToxic]

So this is probably a massively stupid question but I was looking around trying to figure out the requirements to get my gender marker changed to male and everywhere I read the requirements for Pennsylvania it only says you need a letter saying SRS or GRS (I've heard both terms used). So does that mean bottom surgery? or top surgery? oooor are both fair game? lol I figured top surgery would count but I wanted to make sure.

[deviousxen]

BMUP!!!!111

[Nick Aiden]

According to my gender therapist the normal go of things is:

Hormones
Top Surgery(any type)
Change Name/Records/Gender Marker

Now technically anyone can change their name I just put it in where I plan to do it. If you change your name and gender together, that's one less time you have to call everyone(DMV, Insurance, etc)

Bottom surgery is not required in PA. (I have not heard of bottom surgery being required for FTM's anywhere)

[LordKAT]

Not sure of PA but you can often change the marker on your DL with a letter from your therapist. Changing gender on BC or passport requires surgery. I also have only heard of needing top surgery if FTM.

[GnomeKid]

I'm attempting to do it through a court order slid in along with my name change business. 
Its still in the middle of the process and not sure when the court date is yet, but apparently it commonly works in philly.  I, unfortunately, do not live in philly and my lawyer isn't 100% sure it will go down perfectly in my county, but who knows.  He says it will probably work, but that it will most likely just take them a long time to really figure out what to do with it all.

I should probably add that I have had top surgery, therapy, and recently started T.
All of that information was given to the lawyer, and I'm sure plays into it all.

[Radar]

Bottom surgery is not required in PA. (I have not heard of bottom surgery being required for FTM's anywhere)

If I remember correctly you have to have had bottom surgery of some type to get your birth certificate sex marker changed in Illinois. I'm not sure if a hysto counts or not, but I don't see why not.

[Nick Aiden]

I wasn't thinking about a hysto. I've heard of some places that used to/still might require it. But I guess I just don't think about hysto as the bottom surgery we'd be talking about. I was meaning meto/phallo lines

[Radar]

It is a grey area and I'm never sure what the government's idea of bottom surgery is for each requirement. The way I see it, a hysterectomy and bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy is irreversible bottom surgery and removes all female organs so it should acceptable.