End Of Days: There’s ANOTHER Pregnant Man Due To Give Birth In February

[Arch]

And if it's not an identical dynamic, then it can't be assumed to be an equally good one to raise a child in, and the different dynamic deserves its own evaluation.

Different issue from the one I challenged, as I'm sure you know.

[tekla]

If you're using two different means of evaluation without any sort of baseline, all you are doing is generating crap. 

And, despite any amount of 'my childhood sucked' stories, they are but anecdotes, and anecdote is no way to make policy.

And, as a general group, the kids who turned into the best adults, well-rounded, hard workers, extremely social, giving, caring (as opposed to self-centered, if not self-obsessed), were those raised by real hippies on rural communes.  Apparently running around naked and not having religion combined with hard, hot, backbreaking work and no electronic media to 'entertain' you is a great path to self-actualization.

[Poseidon]

I know this is kind of an old post, but this really bothered me when I read it (more than the other things that I don't agree with that were said)

What I believe however, is that a same sex parental upbringing is a LESS good upbringing than a hextrosexual two parent upbringing. Less good in that the quality of that parenting is lacking by missing either the presence of a mother or (much more frequently) a father. And I believe that while the kind of person that child turns out to be may still be a very happy, functional adult, that kind of upbringing is inferior in quality, and that we should not be purposefully helping them to conceive children for an inferior upbringing.
Post Merge: July 04, 2010, 07:16:35 PM

I don't understand how you could compare generalized upbringings and decide which one is inferior to the other. Only the person who has had that upbringing can decide the "quality" of it, as they were the one to experience it. What makes you think that you have the RIGHT to judge situations that have nothing to do with you personally?
On another note, why does the lack of a mother/father really matter when the parent(s) wanting children are ready to provide love for their child? If two men want a child because they are driven to love their child no matter what, and give them a great life, then why should it make the child's experience any less of one for not having a "mother"? The same goes for two women, single parents (because hey, one person can love their child even without a partner), and everyone else who lives outside of the gender binary (they have feelings, too). Having a parent/parents that love you and accept you for you are no less qualified because they cannot provide the "traditional" family set-up (mother, father, child). Screw traditions, love is love.

[Raven]

I am not exactly sure how to reply to this topic as it being a sensitive one..but the way I look at it how manyy men can say that they have in fact been pregnant and had the child? To me it doesn't make them any less a man, and I have myself had a baby that is my own flesh and blood. The only thing is that only happend cause my partner talked me into it and he didn't pull out when I asked him to do such and I don't believe in abortions its an live and let live thing. But that's all I'm gonna say as I'm probably getting all kinds of hate right now...

[Raven]

And I don't see how anyone can hate or discrimninate an other for whatever the reason(s). True there are some people that I can't stand but I still don't hate them or anything, but I do stay away from them for good reasons heh

[Kentrie]

I wouldn't get pregnant for any reason, EVER. That is actually one of my greatest fears.

[some ftm guy]

  ya know i'm just going to say what i feel, as the Dr Seuss quote says "be who you are, because those who mind don't matter and those who matter don't mind." well this quite frankly amazes me. honestly. i know why most guys get really freaked out by the concept of a pregnant man because everyone's been raised with gender roles of what men do and what women do and that's obviously what only women do. usually. that is until transmen started saying screw you to the world and did what they knew felt right to them. I'm left speechless with how many related topics there are to this at the bottom of this page. how many other men are carrying a child, or twins?? or had kids. *scrolls down* it was there before i clicked 'reply' anyway.

   i will always believe no matter how many people believe otherwise, that this is a medical miracle, haters hate me and the what 3 other people who don't have a problem with these guys if you will but it's really unique and special, to each his own, ever heard of that?

  i myself am not entirely sure i would have a baby...eh probably not. wouldn't be comfortable at all, lol talk about gender dysphoria lol and I'd have to isolate myself for months because the world will go all END OF DAYS on me, not even mentioning having the right spouse for the kind of lifelong commitment parenting is first but that would certainly be one hell of a unique, rare life experience that hardly anyone can say they've had. so it's their body. not yours. this shouldn't even be news anymore.

[~RoadToTrista~]

Well, I'd love to have kids, I plan to have kids, and I'd resort to sperm banking to do it, single or not. I guess that makes me less of a woman. I'm sure it's different if you're a transman since you'd be the one getting pregnant, but I'm not able myself, nor am I likely to ever be able to carry a child without alot of trouble, so I can understand why someone would use whatever biological tool they had to become parents.

[TheAetherealMeadow]

What irks me is how childbirth is described as "the most womanly thing possible". Biology is not destiny, folks. The idea that biology is destiny is the driving force behind cissexism and sexism in general. In the words of Thomas Beatie, childbirth is a human experience, not a female experience.

[Transfinite]

I agree. I'm astounded by some of the replies to this post. Why is giving birth womanly? This man was born with a uterus, it's his to do with as he pleases.

[VeryGnawty]

This man was born with a uterus, it's his to do with as he pleases.

I agree.  We are stuck with the equipment we are born with.  If someone wants to have a child before they lose the ability to do so, I don't see why that is a problem.