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Help me put together a list of annoying misconceptions

Started by Elincubus, January 31, 2010, 04:49:23 PM

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spacial

Quote from: Sandy on February 02, 2010, 03:53:39 PM


Sex is between the legs, gender is between the ears.



-Sandy

Best comment yet, by a long way.
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Vision

Transitioning won't solve all of a transpersons problems.

But it will solve ONE.
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K8

Here's a couple more misconceptions:

God doesn't make mistakes, so you can't be transsexual.  (Actually, I really hate the idea that being transsexual is a mistake.  It's a normally-occurring condition.)

It is your parents' fault.  (There is no indication that being TS is either genetic or a learned behaviour.  You are born with it, but that doesn't mean they will ever find a "TS gene".  And it's not contagious.)

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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EveMarie

Quote from: K8 on February 02, 2010, 07:09:24 PM
God doesn't make mistakes, so you can't be transsexual.  (Actually, I really hate the idea that being transsexual is a mistake.  It's a normally-occurring condition.)
- Kate

2 things come to mind, One, I don't understand people who assume they know what God does or doesn't do, and I am appalled at the use of "labels" from everyone, 99% of those that try to put labels on us misuse the terms altogether. I hate responding to a label anyway. I'm just a person who has finally discovered who she is, SO LIVE WITH IT!  sorry. ::)
"You are not born a woman... you become one..."  Simone de Beauvior
"No price is too high to pay for the privilege of owning yourself."  Friedrich Nietzsche
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clhere

I remember when i tried to explain my "situation" to my local GP once then after his first reply was

"Well, why don't you just become gay instead?"......facepalm  ::)

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K8

Quote from: clhere on February 02, 2010, 11:54:15 PM
I remember when i tried to explain my "situation" to my local GP once then after his first reply was

"Well, why don't you just become gay instead?"......facepalm  ::)

;D   :icon_hahano:   :eusa_wall:

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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mtfbuckeye

I'd add that just because one has some typically male interests (football, video-games, sci-fi flicks), doesn't mean that person wouldn't be way more content as a woman. I run into this a lot, since I have a beard and look like Jack Black (but cuter... ha ha). The beard is a complicated thing for me... mayve I'll have to start a thread for that alone..
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Ms Bev

pet peeve?

I rarely get questioned.  I consider myself "functionally, stealth", so most of those who know my "big secret" have said their piece.
But the one that bugged me most was their not understanding that i would be a gay woman after transitioning, when i could have stayed a "straight man" and "had all the women i wanted" without the trouble.

that, i think, was my biggest pet peeve.
1.) If you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance. 
Bev
2.) The more I talk to my married friends, the more I
     appreciate  having a wife.
Marcy
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Keroppi

Quote from: Miss Bev on February 03, 2010, 06:37:40 PM
pet peeve?

I rarely get questioned.  I consider myself "functionally, stealth", so most of those who know my "big secret" have said their piece.
But the one that bugged me most was their not understanding that i would be a gay woman after transitioning, when i could have stayed a "straight man" and "had all the women i wanted" without the trouble.

that, i think, was my biggest pet peeve.
To be fair, that's something that I had to think about and consider the implication of when I first realised my transsexuality, so it's not surprising it's not obvious to them.
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FairyGirl

Quote from: LordKAT on January 31, 2010, 06:10:38 PMIt is not a "lifestyle choice". (That one gets me upset the most I think.)

Agreed. It's the one that exasperates me the most.

Another thing is a lot of people think the change is a superficial one, cosmetic only and that very limited. They have no idea to what extent transitioning, particularly hormone therapy, changes a person both inside and outside. Fair enough I guess; even though I did extensive research beforehand I had no idea how much hormones would change things physically, mentally, and emotionally. Couple that with the experience of living full time and most people not going through it themselves have no concept of what all transitioning entails.
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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Ms Bev

Quote from: Keroppi on February 03, 2010, 06:56:21 PM
To be fair, that's something that I had to think about and consider the implication of when I first realised my transsexuality, so it's not surprising it's not obvious to them.

In my case, I knew what my gender was at a young age.  I didn't have to think about it.  I wished to relate emotionally and physically as female to female.  No implication, no big deal.....I'm gay, that's all.


Bev
1.) If you're skating on thin ice, you might as well dance. 
Bev
2.) The more I talk to my married friends, the more I
     appreciate  having a wife.
Marcy
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K8

Here's another misconception that has come up in the news lately:

If you were born with a penis you are a man.  Conversely, if you weren't born with a penis you are a woman. 

(It never seems to be that having a vagina makes you a woman, only the lack of a penis.  I suppose that makes sense because usually people who espouse this misconception see women as inferior and rightfully subjected to the will of men, i.e. penis-bearers.)

>:(

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Christo

there are alot of them here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,22906.0.html

Quote from: Chris on December 07, 2007, 09:54:05 PM
Trans men have it easy.  their transition aint as hard as trans girls
I'm more trans then you
A real dude has a dick
I'm a real trans.  u aint


Quote from: Chris on December 07, 2007, 10:29:24 PM
Trans men were lesbians b4.  dunno. not me.
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Elincubus on January 31, 2010, 04:49:23 PM



  • Not every transgendered person has known it all their life (and that doesn't make their gender identity any less valid).

This is true for me. I never made the connection until 8 months ago. I always knew there was something not right. I never felt comfortable in my role as a male (in society and the bedroom). I always felt out of place. And to be honest, I never really knew much about transsexualism. I was pretty clueless!
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Former TS Separatist who feels deep regret
http://www.transadvocate.com/category/dana-taylor
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Jamie-o

Quote from: K8 on February 05, 2010, 08:09:14 PM
Here's another misconception that has come up in the news lately:

If you were born with a penis you are a man.  Conversely, if you weren't born with a penis you are a woman. 

(It never seems to be that having a vagina makes you a woman, only the lack of a penis.  I suppose that makes sense because usually people who espouse this misconception see women as inferior and rightfully subjected to the will of men, i.e. penis-bearers.)

>:(

- Kate


I think that's the Big Stick philosophy, isn't it?  ;)  I'm sure that's what Teddy Roosevelt was talking about.  ;D

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Alyssa M.

The main misconception that irritates me is related to Bev's, and is pretty much a generalization of her gripe.

The misconception is that I care the slightest bit what any particular person thinks about what it means to "be a woman." I don't. I really don't give a damn what others might think a woman is, especially with regard to those who don't think being a lesbian is a 100% legit female identity. I have walked this earth for three decades: believe me, I know what being a woman means. And to the extent I don't, I'll ask someone. Probably someone who isn't you. You don't have to tell me what vague thing about me presentation "gives me away." I guarantee you, I already knew about that.

And another thing: It's not about passing. It's about living. Right now I don't pass 100%. It's probably closer to 50%., and lower if I hang around with you for a while. That sucks. I'm unhappy about it. But it's far more important for me to live my life than to constantly worry about particular aspects of my presentation I don't quite have down yet. When I began my transition, I made myself consider the possibility that I would never be able to pass 100%, and decide that it would still be worth it. And it is worth it. I'd love to be beautiful, stunningly supermodel-beautiful. I really would. But that's not the point. The point is to live my life as fully as I can.


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   - Anatole France
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K8

Quote from: Alyssa M. on February 07, 2010, 07:17:03 AM
When I began my transition, I made myself consider the possibility that I would never be able to pass 100%, and decided that it would still be worth it. And it is worth it. I'd love to be beautiful, stunningly supermodel-beautiful. I really would. But that's not the point. The point is to live my life as fully as I can.

Amen, sister.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Miniar

"Once a man always a man".... MTFs were never "men", and FTM's were never "women"



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Natasha

Annoying misconceptions

- transsexuality is an identity

- once a transsexual, always a transsexual

- transsexuality is all about "the clothes"

- transition "never" ends.

- transgender is the same as transsexual.
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