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Astronauts complain about cancelled Moon trips.

Started by spacial, March 13, 2010, 10:39:40 AM

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Catherine

ITs ok you dont need to go in to space. Water has been found on mars..








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lisagurl

QuoteI suggest you watch the video. The relevant quote is at 28 seconds where he says, 'I think America has a responsibility to maintain, it's leadership in technology, it's moral leadership in the world, to explore, to seek knowledge, ......

But, as I said earlier, I realize that being seen to criticize NASA, to an American, is inconceivable. 


Astronauts do not make any policy for NASA no more than Tiger Woods makes moral policy for professional Golf. If you read "The Right Stuff" many complained they where nothing more than laboratory animals. I would say that it is the citizens responsibility to adjust morals in their community because morals are not universal but man made, subject to common understandings that make communities work. Science has no relation to morals as they look for universal truth. The funding of science comes from your voting with your dollar for corporations, business and government that you support.



Post Merge: March 17, 2010, 09:09:56 AM

QuoteThe term moral was used by the NASA man in terms of moral leadership by scientists.

Again you need to separate propaganda from fact. NASA is controlled by Congress not by an aging astronaut. You need to understand the difference between personal freedom of speech and personal opinions and official policy. One of the biggest problems of the web is finding what is truth, which many younger users have no idea how to do.
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spacial

As i've already indicated, I apologise for daring to even think critically of NASA.

I trust, when they develop their warp engine and zoom off the battle with other worlds, the implications of my indiscretion will be put aiside as I faithfully perform such humble duties as are alliocated to a sinner such as myself.
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tekla

NASA, like other government programs might hire a butt-load of scientists and engineers - but in the end it's run by administrators, who are political appointees, and they get there by knowing which way the wind blows.  And, there can be very little doubt which direction that breeze has been coming from in the last few decades.

And even if they don't believe it, they might just be saying that to 'sell' the program to people who think that's the only reason to do anything.

I've never heard a scientist claim any sort of moral authority with regards to being a scientist.  I'm sure most of them feel that they are moral people - even the ones who design nuclear weapons - but that is not a result of science.

And the best reason I've ever heard for doing this kind of research and exploration is because we're going there.  We're going into space, so it's good to know where we are going.

By the way, most science uses, and has used metric measurement for a long time now.  It's political/cultural deal why that conversion wasn't fully implemented, but it's in effect in about half of things that use such things, like soda being sold in liters.  There is some thinking that part of the original trouble with Hubble came from a metric/english conversion problem, but its far more likely that the problem was just that we had never tried to do that before and the effects of mirrors and lenses being made in one gravity level and then placed into another caused a bit of a warp.  Whatever the reasons, they were fixed, and the results are among the most mind-blowing things I've ever seen.
http://hubblesite.org/gallery/

And the total cost of this is a very small part of the federal budget.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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lisagurl

QuoteAs i've already indicated, I apologise for daring to even think critically of NASA.

I have no idea where you get the notion that NASA is held in high regard by the American people. The U.S. is broke and everything needs fixing especially the Government and all its Dept's. America is about freedom and liberty not its government or Dept's.
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Natalie3174

Who cares about going to the moon. Its boring! Its a bout time the planet Earth built some starships and headed for the nearest M class planet in our Galaxy. Forget about the moon its a dead rock. What we really need is to build a fleet of Star Destroyers. Im sure George Lucas could help with the plans or blueprints for the Fleet. And all those Star Trek and other Sci-fans could help.
May the Force be with you!
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