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Compulsion to change

Started by Nigella, March 09, 2010, 04:07:02 AM

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Nigella

Hi there,

I have often wondered what made me want to dress in the opposite gender from a very early age. It seems odd to the point of frustration to find the answer. I can't really put a finger on anything specific except that it felt right instead of feeling wrong. back then in the 60's I did feel it was wrong to do this as boys didn't do that. I didn't want to be found out, buy parents, girlfriend, friends, etc. I hid it and it has been something lurking in the background for decades that finally came to a head three years ago.

Now having almost completed my transition at least physically I still wonder "why" that first part of female clothing. That disgust at my body and knowing things were wrong.

Everything since transition seems so natural to me where as before it seems a struggle.

"Shrugs" Can we ever really put a handle on it apart from what the medical profession has put on it. Yes Gender Dysphoria, gender unhappiness, but still I wonder why? Why me?

It sounds as though I am still searching for answer and though I live fully as a woman, with work, friends (stealth) and parents who are great, I come back sometimes and think about the first time at age 8.

I don't know if I am really making much sense of this post to you but I hope so.

Stardust
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spacial

Quote from: stardust on March 09, 2010, 04:07:02 AM

"Shrugs" Can we ever really put a handle on it apart from what the medical profession has put on it. Yes Gender Dysphoria, gender unhappiness, but still I wonder why? Why me?


Do we need to?

Do we, as adults, need to justify decisions on how we live our lives?

Do we need to find excuses, for others and for ourselves?

If SRS were as freely available as any other apperence altering surgery, would we be so concerned, or are our concerns caused by the freting of others, especially professionals who seem to treat their interviews with us as an opportunity to 'explore' our inner selves?


Quote from: stardust on March 09, 2010, 04:07:02 AM
I don't know if I am really making much sense of this post to you but I hope so.

You made perfect sense to me.
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K8

Last fall I attended a class as a guest, where an FtM was presenting what he called "Trans 101".  The class was college students, presumably all cis-gendered. 

One of his first questions was: How do you know what gender you are?  He gave them time to think about it and then had them pass paper up front so that he could read some of the responses.  Some said their bodies, of course, but others had deeper answers.  I thought it an interesting exercise.

How do we know what gender we are?  We just know somehow – from all the cues we get from the world around us. :)

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Kay Henderson

Looking back, I believe that one of the best things I did for myself was to stop asking "why".
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Sandy

It makes a lot of sense.

I too asked those very same questions.  I mulled on them for quite a while.  I still do it now and then.

But in the end, does it really matter?  We are because we are.  Or more colloquially, it is what it is.  It is one of the stages of acceptance that we have to go through.

Even if you could point to a "trigger" we are still here.  It wouldn't really change anything.

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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Christy Edwards

Ironically I was about the age of 8 as well. Those ?'s I asked myself over and over and over again.
Just until recently have I accepted me for who I am. You are right, one way feels right and the other, wrong. Many linger and wait for years and years only because of family/friends/society.....
When is the right time to transition??? Huge Q..Whether u r n your 20's,30's,40's,50's, or older, u can tell by the desire. Me anyway. I'm amazed, but then again maybe not, on how many stories are so alike. Thats another reason I love Susan's.....Thanks for your post....
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rejennyrated

Funnily enough I stopped worrying about what gender I was and why right about the time that I got SRS.

Up until then I had been both adamant that I was female and very curious to find some scientific explanation as to why that was so.  After SRS it was more a case of "well I am that which I am, so you can take it or leave it cos either way I won't be changing it."

I no longer think about what gender I am or why. I'm just content to be me. People can either take me or leave me as they find me.
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Cindy

It is one of those questions, that at an age were I didn't know what gender was or sex was or what boys and girls looked like, I was dressing in my sisters clothes. I think I was about 5. I think I just knew it was right - but I kept it hidden at that young age. I do sometimes think why?
Not that it changes anything.
Is it part of the subconscious that tells us things aren't right; even though our conscious part cannot explain it.

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Nigella

Thanks everyone,

I didn't really expect to find any definitive answer to something that can not be really defined because I believe it goes deep that the mere physical. It is I believe a state of the soul and spirit, just as much as why I love strawberries and cream or red wine. It is who we are.

Yes I do think it is part of our mulling over the acceptance of how we feel and who we are at the core of our being. And no, it doesn't really matter because, "we are who we are" just as much as the next person is "who they are."

This could become a very philosophical post, to quote De carte, "I think therefore I am" lol.

Stardust. 
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Chrissty

...in a recent theapy session, I was again discussing my earlier history..

...when my therapist commented....that it is generally only people with disphoria that ever question their gender, and that is one of the major reasons the public have difficulty in comprehending the reasoning of gender variant folk...

..as for me, I continue to loose the fight against my compulsion on a daily basis... ::)

Chrissty

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rejennyrated

Quote from: Chrissty on March 11, 2010, 03:50:20 PM
that it is generally only people with disphoria that ever question their gender, and that is one of the major reasons the public have difficulty in comprehending the reasoning of gender variant folk...
Figures! - That explains why the fascination with the question vanished after SRS.

These days I do indeed find it curious that people ask this question, which now seems to me to be virtually unanswerable and actually not terribly important, so often...

Though, of course, having been there in my own past, I do understand that when you are in the throes of disphoria it does genuinely become a pressing issue.
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Randi

I've tried to ignore it, put it in a box and hide it, and rationalize it. I finally have given up trying to figure out why/how ::) and just go with it-slowly-hopefully. 

Chrissty-what a nice pic-your hair is lovely.

Randi :)
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FairyGirl

Quote from: stardust on March 09, 2010, 04:07:02 AM"Shrugs" Can we ever really put a handle on it apart from what the medical profession has put on it. Yes Gender Dysphoria, gender unhappiness, but still I wonder why? Why me?

I don't think I've ever asked, "Why me?" exactly. I have asked myself what would it be like to be born into a gender that you identify with, that you're comfortable with, what would it be like to not feel like you hated your body for being so fundamentally wrong. That is something I can never, ever know what it's like. All I can do is to correct the body I'm in and be happy with who I am now.
Girls rule, boys drool.
If I keep a green bough in my heart, then the singing bird will come.
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Nigella

Quote from: Chrissty on March 11, 2010, 03:50:20 PM
...in a recent theapy session, I was again discussing my earlier history..

...when my therapist commented....that it is generally only people with disphoria that ever question their gender, and that is one of the major reasons the public have difficulty in comprehending the reasoning of gender variant folk...

..as for me, I continue to loose the fight against my compulsion on a daily basis... ::)

Chrissty

Hi Chrissty,

I think when you open Pandora's box you can't get the lid back on and it grows and grows until you have to deal with it one way or another. As someone once said, "it comes back to bit you."

Stardust
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Sarah B

Hi Stardust

I too have wondered over the years, why I pursued and put on female articles of clothing wherever I could and whenever I was able to and during my previous life that the amount of times I was able to was few and far between.

In my early days there was not much chance of that because in my family and close relatives (who we hardly visited) had boys mostly and very few girls, so I was not brought up in a feminine environment.

So why did I want to wear and why did I feel so comfortable wearing female clothing?  It certainly was not the environment I was brought up in, I was not spoken about female clothing let alone how comfortable that the items were.  Which leaves us with the only possible answer and that it lies within ourselves, this answer is of course, "we are females".  In other words (or cliché), we have a 'female brain in a male body' and we wear female clothing, because that is what females do and this is the answer to why.

So stop trying to answer why.  It does not matter what you wear now because people will see you as a female and you can wear what you want to wear.  Take it from me I have worn suits (power dressing) to evening dresses, to going out dinner party clothes, barbeque wear, to wearing old baggy track suit pants with a t-shirt (underclothes of course) pair of socks and joggers for university and this was crappiest clothing I ever wore but I still felt comfortable wearing what I wanted to wear and nobody new anything other than I was a female wearing what I wanted to wear.

So did I ever suffer from dysphoria, in relation to what I was doing?  No I did not, because whatever I did, I did it because it was the right thing to do.  In addition, my gender is female and will always will be, I never asked why me? and "I'm just content to be me. People can either take me or leave me as they find me." as Rejennyrated said.

Kind regards
Sarah B
Be who you want to be.
Sarah's Story
Feb 1989 Living my life as Sarah.
Feb 1989 Legally changed my name.
Mar 1989 Started hormones.
May 1990 Three surgery letters.
Feb 1991 Surgery.
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