How many here who pass completely still see female in the mirror?

[Myself]

Just curious :3 I think this can benefit quite a few people here.

[zombiesarepeaceful]

I want to stab the face in the mirror...yet I usually pass completely. I have sideburns, deep voice, and a good binder now. But still, I want to stab the face in the mirror..hate my lips, and my facial structure. Screw being Polish.

[Lachlann]

I'm on T, I normally pass, but I'm not sure what I see in the mirror.

[Silver]

I want to stab the face in the mirror...yet I usually pass completely. I have sideburns, deep voice, and a good binder now. But still, I want to stab the face in the mirror..hate my lips, and my facial structure. Screw being Polish.

You look good to me.

Don't pass completely, although definitely more than I'd expect. I see a (somewhat) male face on a female body. Sometimes I can convince myself that it is a male face on a male body, and at those points I am pretty happy. But it gets harder to do with time. Not on T, hopefully soon.

[Nicky]

I want to stab the face in the mirror...yet I usually pass completely. I have sideburns, deep voice, and a good binder now. But still, I want to stab the face in the mirror..hate my lips, and my facial structure. Screw being Polish.

I love the slav in my looks...

[Greg]

I pass completely and have done for several months, been on T about 2 months. Since I got my hair cut short over a year ago I found it virtually impossible to see a female face. My lips are horrible though, they aren't full or pouty but they are very red and they just look very feminine.

Unclothed obviously my body looks female but I try to ignore that and when out in public clothes and binders hide all kinds of crap

[Mr. Fox]

I actually have the opposite experience; regardless of whether I pass, I can't see myself as female; even when I'm naked, I see my head on a female body.  I do seem to pass an awful lot, even with long hair and women's clothes, so it's not just in my mind, at least.

[Aussie Jay]

I don't think I ever saw a female in the mirror... not that I always saw a male, it was always more of a cross...

I used to wonder what people thought when they looked at me though... Because I've always been he'd rather than she'd.

I guess now I finally see more of a male in the mirror though - not a mix between the two like I always saw.

[aydan_boy]

I can't tell anymore. I've been so obsessed about what i see in the mirror that i no longer really understand what i see if that makes sense . I feel that i see an extremely androgynous person when i look in the mirror. I used to see an ugly girl...Maybe after T i'll start seeing more male chararistics.

[GnomeKid]

eh i think you should have a "sometimes but its rare" option. 

Typically I see a very male face, but on rare occasions [once every 2-3 weeks?] I'll see some strikingly female feature there and it all morphs back[in a way] and then i look again and I'm me.

[Arch]

I can't tell anymore. I've been so obsessed about what i see in the mirror that i no longer really understand what i see if that makes sense

This is sort of where I'm coming from. Now, nothing screams "female" when I look in the mirror, but what I see is not entirely male, either. I know that my face has changed, but I'm not sure how much. I think I'm sort of training myself to see myself as male. I think I'm making a shift from seeing female to seeing me and telling myself that what I see is male. Someday it will be automatic.

It's so weird...I was at my men's group tonight. People have been worried about me because I've been sort of disconnected for the past month and haven't been speaking to any of them except when I couldn't avoid it. Tonight several of them expressed concern and were glad to see that I was feeling better. I got some good bear hugs. One guy laughed at my t-shirt and patted me on the chest affectionately. Afterward, we went to the restaurant across the street and made remarks about sex and male anatomy. Typical gay guy stuff. Nothing about this scenario suggests that they see me as anything but a regular guy.

I wish I could see what they see.

[sneakersjay]

Doesn't happen often but yes, it still does.


Jay

[Carson]

It doesn't really happen to me very often and didn't even before I started T when I started passing full time but it still happens once in a while.

[Adio]

I've never really seen myself as female when I look at myself in the mirror or in pictures.  I just see me.  Sometimes I look more feminine than masculine, but I always see a guy.  I don't think I ever really saw a girl.

Makes me wonder what people thought when I had to wear dresses and skirts.  Did they see a poorly dressed masculine girl or did they see a guy in a dress like I did?  If I had to guess, most would be the first, but some would definitely be the second.

[Miniar]

I think I'll never really fully stop seeing a feminine form sometimes when I look in the mirror, but I'm content with that. I'm no alpha male.