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Started by confused, March 23, 2010, 04:28:33 PM

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confused

ok so i'll try to make this as short as possible , so please read and tell me what you think

i have come through an article that most of it was exactly how i feel , except that it says they don't have an urge to be a female but i do . here's the article if it makes you understand more


but basically what i feel is

1- i have a very strong urge to be a woman , and wish that i was born one. although i don't feel like a woman trapped in a man's body

2- i never felt attracted to a guy and if i was a woman i would be extremely lesbian

3- i really do hate guys , although i can socialize with them more than well , but i just pretend to like hanging around with them , and since i was a child most of my friends have been girls , even all my play mates were girls

4- i know a sex change operation would never manage to make me a real girl because , it's impossible to have things like a uterus and so . and neither me or other people will ever going to see me as a genuine woman , so that is not what i want

5- i really really don't know what to do about that urge , and i can't fight it , and can't do anything about it , but it's like driving me crazy , whenever i'm alone i imagine i'm a female and try to dress up like a female and make sure then when i look in the mirror i see a nice looking girl not a guy dressing like a girl

6- i know i talk about it too much , but i just really need help , and even don't know what i want , but it's like agony here , i wish i could explain it


i guess my basic question is , what does that make me? and how to solve this problem? and is there a way to just forget all this?
it's not an option where i come from to go to sex therapy or anything like this , well it is an option but not an option for me , because i'll never find the guts to talk about it and never can explain it . please help , i really don't even know what i want





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Dana Lane

Quotei guess my basic question is , what does that make me?

Nobody here can diagnose you. Only you and/or a therapist can. You sound like a transsexual woman to me, though.

Quote2- i never felt attracted to a guy and if i was a woman i would be extremely lesbian

You might be surprised in the end. Having female hormones in your system can sometimes change how attracted you are to guys. I used to have a small attraction to 'some' guys but after my pheromones changed to female that got WAY stronger.

Quote4- i know a sex change operation would never manage to make me a real girl because , it's impossible to have things like a uterus and so . and neither me or other people will ever going to see me as a genuine woman , so that is not what i want

A good doctor can make a vagina that can fool a gynecologist, If you are a transsexual woman you are a woman. There are a lot of women who don't have internal sexual organs.
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Former TS Separatist who feels deep regret
http://www.transadvocate.com/category/dana-taylor
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Janet_Girl

Hi Confused, :icon_wave:

Welcome to our little family. Over 4300 strong. That would be one heck of a family reunion.

Feel free to post your successes/failures, Hopes/dreams.  Ask questions and seek answers. Give and receive advice.

But remember we are family here, your family now. And it is always nice to have another sister. :icon_hug:

And be sure to check out these links ( MUST READS )

And I said "sister" because you sound very much like me, when I was younger.  I was never attached to guys in that other life.  And I also thought I would be a lesbian, but after two years on HRT, I have changed.

Even though I am per-op, I very much want a man in my life.  And I don't think that I am any less a woman, even being pre-op, than any other woman.  You see it isn't what is between the legs, but what is between the ears, that makes you a woman.

Now I am not a therapist, nor do I play one on TV, but I think you are very much a Transwoman.  But get thee to a therapist, woman.

Hugs and Love,
Janet
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cynthialee

And it can go the other way.
I have always liked men and women sexualy prety much equaly but now I am completely enthraled with woman and men bearly catch my eye anymore.
meh I totaly expected it to go the other way.
Just remember your sexual orientation and your gender are not the same thing.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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K8

Welcome to Susan's, Confused.  :icon_flower:

There's a lot of good information and good people here.  Each of our stories is unique but we have a lot in common.  Settle in, pull up a keyboard, and explore.

You sound very much like me some years ago.  That doesn't mean that my path is your path - just that I was very much where you are.  I had hoped I was gay - thinking it might be easier than being trans - but I never met a man I was attracted to.  Since starting hormones and living full time as a woman, I've met a number of men I have been attracted to.  (Now, if they were only attracted to me... :P)

It takes courage to become who you are - to work to be comfortable with yourself.  I think that if you can bring yourself to talk with a counselor or therapist, you will begin to sort out these feelings and perhaps discover who and what you are.  You are certainly not the only person in the world who has felt as you do - far from it!

Good luck to you, and happy exploring. :icon_wave:

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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Nicky

It sounds to me like you are just creating barriers for yourself. Is it better to have the horror of male genitalia or some that actually look like womans genetailia even if you don't think it is real? To look and be seen as a woman by society even if you think it is fake?

The whole question of sexuality is a red herring and unrelated to your gender issues. So you can put that aside, or look at it as another issue to be worked out. (Not that sexuality should be an issue, you like who you like, pretty simple)

I think you need to have a think about what is it that makes someone a 'real girl'. I can tell you now the defining thing won't be the body or even genetics. Both can be discounted as being important to what makes a woman a woman.

Well, to 'solve' the problem is really to be free of your gender dysphoria.

But first I think you should consider finding a gender therapist. Work through your issues with them. They will help you figure out what you want. Alternatively hang out here and chat, and think about it. There is no hurry. The answers will come to you in time.

Take care
nice to meet you

Nicki
xx
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confused

wow , i didn't expect that response , thanks everyone , i'm really getting less confused , and more comfortable just by reading your posts
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Sandy

Confused!

Welcome to Susan's!  We all are confused at one time or another.  It's completely understandable.

Let's take your questions one by one:
Quote1- i have a very strong urge to be a woman , and wish that i was born one. although i don't feel like a woman trapped in a man's body

If transsexuality could so easily be diagnosed as the classic "Woman in a man's body" we would have a lot less confusion.  Many, myself included, could not so easily explain their discomfort in such a well defined manner.  I grew up without knowing such terms or even thinking that.  I felt an overall discomfort with my body that I characterized as feeling like I had my shoes on the wrong feet but all over my body.  Some don't even have it that well defined.  So just because you don't have such well defined feelings does not directly define you as transsexual or not.  Truly the only real diagnosis that is of any real worth would be from having sessions with a gender trained therapist.  They can help you sort out your feelings and help you come to an understanding of what you feel, and help you deal with it.

Quote2- i never felt attracted to a guy and if i was a woman i would be extremely lesbian

There is a difference between gender identity and sexual orientation.  Sexual orientation is about who you are attracted to, gender identity is about how you view yourself.  Also, as others have commented, sexual attraction can become somewhat, er, fluid if you decide to transition and you may or may feel an attraction to men.  Don't let that worry you.  I still consider myself quite a dedicated lesbian, but since I transitioned, there are the occasional male frames that catch my eye.  It's not really all that relevant when dealing with gender identity.

Quote3- i really do hate guys , although i can socialize with them more than well , but i just pretend to like hanging around with them , and since i was a child most of my friends have been girls , even all my play mates were girls

It sounds like you are attempting to create a male persona because you have a male body, but you are not particularly interested in "manly" things.  This is part of some of the coping skills we have to deal with.  Many have taken up quite dangerous masculine activities such as military service and law enforcement in an attempt to "man up" and prove to themselves that they aren't what they know themselves to be. 

Quote4- i know a sex change operation would never manage to make me a real girl because , it's impossible to have things like a uterus and so . and neither me or other people will ever going to see me as a genuine woman , so that is not what i want

The transformational surgeries cannot make your body fertile, true.  The surgeries can help bring your body and your mind into alignment.  That is one of the things that torment us so.  We know ourselves to be female (if we are MTF, for example) but our bodies do not reflect what we have within.  But it can help with your integration into society as the gender you know yourself to be.  But remember, many women cannot have children.  This is a loss that we all have to deal with.  And what is a *genuine* woman?  There are many, many components to gender and only one of them regards genetics.  It's what's between your ears, and not what's between your legs that counts.  So before you completely discount transition or surgery, give some thought to what you are and who you want to be.

Quote5- i really really don't know what to do about that urge , and i can't fight it , and can't do anything about it , but it's like driving me crazy , whenever i'm alone i imagine i'm a female and try to dress up like a female and make sure then when i look in the mirror i see a nice looking girl not a guy dressing like a girl

This is partly why it's called Gender Identity Dysphoria (GID).  The dissonance between what you know yourself to be and what your body shows creates discomfort.  It can lead to clinical depression, loss of self worth, and self destructive behavior.  Too many of us have take a permanent solution to a temporary problem because of this.  Please if these feelings turn dark and destructive, please, please seek help.  It can get very difficult to bear this blessing-inside-a-curse.

Quote6- i know i talk about it too much , but i just really need help , and even don't know what i want , but it's like agony here , i wish i could explain it

You've explained it quite well.  Know that you are not alone.  What you are feeling is something that binds us together here.  You are among friends here.  Welcome, my sister!  This is a place to talk about your feelings and your fears and your losses and your accomplishments.  You are loved.  You are not crazy, you are not alone.  Though you must walk this path by yourself, you have many who will be with you along your way on your journey.

Quotei guess my basic question is , what does that make me? and how to solve this problem? and is there a way to just forget all this?
it's not an option where i come from to go to sex therapy or anything like this , well it is an option but not an option for me , because i'll never find the guts to talk about it and never can explain it . please help , i really don't even know what i want

What does this make you?  Human.  As scared and confused as any of us.  Welcome to the club.

Unfortunately, there really isn't a way to forget this, or purge these feelings.  At least no one yet has found a way.  You can purge and suppress for a period of time, but sooner or later the feelings will come back and many times more powerful than before.  Purging and suppression can be a viable alternative, but realize that it is a ticking time bomb. 

Actually you have taken the first step in talking about it.  You found the guts to come here.  Small steps, but it is progress!  And if you decide that you can deal with your feelings anonymously here, so be it.  We are NOT therapists.  We have had NO training.  We do not deal in any explanation of hormone dosages or recommend self medication.  Hormones are very dangerous to deal with and require blood tests and a physician to interpret the results.  But we are here together.  We support each other and we will support you.

Welcome!

-Sandy
Out of the darkness, into the light.
Following my bliss.
I am complete...
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Dana Lane

Quote from: Nicky on March 23, 2010, 06:15:44 PM
It sounds to me like you are just creating barriers for yourself.

This is a very good point. When I first discovered I was transsexual I told myself I am a straight transsexual woman and would only date guys. But then I remembered I always try to be as dynamic as I can and decided to drop that entire philosophy of being straight and go with the flow. I want to find happiness with someone special and if I limit myself intentionally I may miss an opportunity.

But, for the time being I consider myself asexual. At least until I get my shiny new vagina.
============
Former TS Separatist who feels deep regret
http://www.transadvocate.com/category/dana-taylor
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Miniar

I strongly suggest speaking with a therapist.
I am not equipped to diagnose or give any sort of medical advice, but, to me it seems there's some self-loathing at play here and that if you can work on that then maybe the rest will become clearer.



"Everyone who has ever built anywhere a new heaven first found the power thereto in his own hell" - Nietzsche
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Smith

for me, i agree with Miniar :D
The therapist is the expert to diagnose you and give medical advice. :D
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fluffy jorgen

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6- i know i talk about it too much ,

Good on you, mate, at least you can talk about it. Many can't.
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Rock_chick

Hola and welcome hun. It's normal to be confused...like it's been said we've all been there, it's good that you've started to find yourself.

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Vyn

Some of your explanations seem to be classic experiences of the M2F transgender spectrum. But remember everyone has their own thoughts and experiences. Many people have gone through very similar worries (even in reading answers here thusfar), and by sharing and talking with others in a similar boat, things will start to sort themselves out and you will feel better.  I agree with other posters that a gender therapist would be helpful in guiding your future path and exploring your options.  Just make sure to take your time and be true to yourself.  :)
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