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Want to change gender but I'm not a transsexual

Started by flexible, March 19, 2010, 02:22:15 PM

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Deanna_Renee

I would think that going from being 'cisgendered' woman - as you say, "I've always been a girl inside my head, and all the parts fit" and transitioning would make you gender dysphoric. For us who have been "blessed" with GID we choose to transition to help make the parts fit, right now they don't. I would imagine that changing from Estrogen to Testosterone would trigger that GID where it does not now exist. Why someone would want to do that baffles my mind.

That said, I understand that people throughout history have lived their lives presenting as their opposites. I don't know how many of those were transsexual, transgendered, or just doing it for social/political reasons and if so, how it would affect ones mind. It's an interesting scenario.

I wish you the best in your efforts.
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Silver

Only if you're sure, really sure you won't regret it.

I want to transition because everyday is torture. I hate living like this, and I don't believe transition will be worse than feeling so pathetic all the time as I watch my body mutate.

Anyways- consider the consequences. If you live in the same area, those that still know you as a woman will likely think less of you. You'd need to be stealth for it to help you get a job, well I think so. Do you want to have kids? Do you want to marry/be a partner of a straight man? Because testosterone will destroy your beauty if it matters to you.

No, it's not a blessing. I hate living as a female and I wish I didn't have this problem, this gender dysphoria but it doesn't just go away because I will it to. It would be nice to not have to think about it or worry. Just be alright like everyone else in this department.
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flexible

Thankyou to everyone who replied, I very much appreciate your input. I've had a talk with my mother about this, and I described what my intentions were. She was surprisingly intolerant of the suggestion. I guess to most that would've been expected, but my mother is the most non-judgmental person I know, and she normally trusts that I can decide things appropriately for myself. She outright told me that this was not the answer, though, and, like many of you have suggested, that there were better alternatives. I'm seriously now considering applying for a job in Canada, and moving out of my country (I am in the middle east, I'd rather not go into specifics about my home country). Canada because my experience and education would be just enough to grant me a temporary work visa. My only problem and great fear is that I don't know anybody there, and I am not married, so there would be no one to support me. Hopefully, if this works out, I will not have to transition and can escape from these confining working conditions by moving overseas. I am very excited at the prospect!

If it so happens that I cannot get a visa, or that it will take an excessively long time (I've heard for some it takes five years or more), I will reconsider becoming a man. Honestly, men have the ability to do whatever they want in my country, there are no legal limits for when they can go outside, what kind of jobs they can apply for, I want this experience for myself. If it generates gender dysphoria in me when presently none exists, then that will be unfortunate, but as it is, I cannot continue living like this. It is unbearable and it is making me very depressed.

Thankyou once again.
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noeleena

Hi..

A very interesting thought . if your not like us who are trans people . my thoughts are not as a transperson, in the sence of male to female or female to male ,  more the mix of both male & female . & as i look at both sides i see pros & cons ,
I allso understand where you are coming from both where you live & yes your mind ., in why you are thinking this way . & yes it was not many years ago we in the english speaking world would think like many of you have thoughts  concerning your lot in life,

For me i can live as a woman with out any of those concerns that you have . & yes here in new zealand ,   were we are more accepted as people not wether we are male or female ,
Thats the difference we have.
   
  I am more accepted as a woman yet even with my male back ground it was not a issue nor is it now . age of cause,   i m 62 & yes i can pull rank because of my back ground & that comes with age learning, how to do things , & yes acceptance is all a part of that life experance as a person .

  If you have the guts to do what i have done & carry it off & be able to stand alone & go through hell & come out the other side ,
  That does not say i did not accept help i did just not from where i thought i would get it . & from strangers .
  It was not easy yet,   i can stand on what i did & yes,   no regrets   to be able to live as i should be able to because i knew who i was . & going back 50 years .
  I would not say if you are male  or female or may be like i am a mix of both m & f .
   Only you know that . & yes some times we have to do things that others do not understand .

  All the best in what ever you do . & how you get there .

   hugs xxx ,,

   ...noeleena...
Hi. from New Zealand, Im a woman of difference & intersex who is living life to the full.   we have 3 grown up kids and 11 grand kid's 6 boy's & 5 girl's,
Jos and i are still friends and  is very happy with her new life with someone.
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Deanna_Renee

Flexible,

That is great news about the possibility of a job in Canada. That could prove to be a very rewarding opportunity for you and give you a whole new outlook on life. I certainly hope this proves to be the case for you. Judging by your writing, you seem to be very well versed in English and would likely fit in well in the community in Canada.

Another thought came to mind about your thoughts of presenting as male. I know that in some countries, there are very strong feelings (and laws) against trans people. You may want to consider, or look into, how you would be treated if you were found out to be a woman "posing" as a man. This could be very, very dangerous for you. I also don't know how easily you would be able to pass as a boy/man presently. Are there medical professionals that you would be able to, safely, go to to administer you hormones and possibly surgeries? There is a lot that you would need to consider carefully.

I wish you all of the best.
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kyril

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on March 22, 2010, 07:43:20 AM
Another thought came to mind about your thoughts of presenting as male. I know that in some countries, there are very strong feelings (and laws) against trans people. You may want to consider, or look into, how you would be treated if you were found out to be a woman "posing" as a man. This could be very, very dangerous for you. I also don't know how easily you would be able to pass as a boy/man presently. Are there medical professionals that you would be able to, safely, go to to administer you hormones and possibly surgeries? There is a lot that you would need to consider carefully.
Some Middle Eastern countries (I'm thinking specifically Iran here) actually recognize transsexuality and permit it to be treated, in some cases funded by the national healthcare system. Others, of course, don't, but my guess is that Flexible is located somewhere where treatment is possible.

That being said, as a (temporarily-displaced) Canadian, I do have to recommend Canada. It's a beautiful place and I hope you can get there, flexible.


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Deanna_Renee

Kyril,

I had heard that some Middle Eastern countries were open in regards to transitioning. It is interesting/wonderful to know that, in some cases, it is even funded. However, I have also heard of other countries where it is very much the opposite case.
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Arch

Quote from: Deanna_Renee on March 22, 2010, 11:59:18 AM
Kyril,

I had heard that some Middle Eastern countries were open in regards to transitioning. It is interesting/wonderful to know that, in some cases, it is even funded. However, I have also heard of other countries where it is very much the opposite case.

And then there's Iran, where transition is used as a cure for homosexuality...I often wonder how those "trans" people cope and get through the day. Guess I should add more reading to my list.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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zombiesarepeaceful

What about being a female activist? You can do whatever you want bad enough in this world. Screw sexist people. I don't think this sounds like a good idea, what you want to do. I mean, if you just want to look like a man to be respected...maybe you have other issues?
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Arch

Quote from: zombiesarepeaceful on March 22, 2010, 03:11:05 PM
What about being a female activist? You can do whatever you want bad enough in this world. Screw sexist people.

Such activism is still fatal in some countries.
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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skyler13

if i were you, i would take a closer read at some of the other posts on here.

some of us trans guys, and women, lose alot.
Support from framily, jobs, respect.
Basically losing a little piece of everything.

If your doing this to be granted specific advantages of being a male, eg:better job oppurtunities, than you might want to think again.

Its easier said than done.

but good luck with whatever you chose.
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Arch

Moving to a new country, though drastic, seems less drastic to me than transition. If you move to Canada, you can always move back, presumably. Or even go to another country entirely! But transition...well, if you "only" take T and then bind (don't get top surgery or any bottom surgery), then you could conceivably switch back to living as a female. Your voice would probably be very deep for a woman's, and you would spend a fortune in electrolysis, but you could get there. But seriously, explore all other options before you consider anything "transitional."
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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