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I'm getting my Gardasil shot tomorrow.

Started by Autumn, April 06, 2010, 02:00:48 PM

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Autumn

I'm posting this here instead of general discussion because, well, we get more traffic here.

I'm excited. Insurance should pay 100% because it's a vaccine. A shot tomorrow, two months out, then six months out. (Of course I might not have insurance for 2 and 3, hurray lawl.)

Gardasil was approved for males ages 9-27 last october, just as it is approved for women. They're trying to get it approved without an age limitation as, surprise, it helps everyone.

It's not cervical cancer. It's HPV. Besides the unappealing warts no one wants (two strains of those protected against), it also protects against two of the high risk strains. The invisible ones that kill you. That killed Farrah Fawcett.

Rectal
Oral
Throat
Esophageal
Breast
Testicular
Cervical

All either 100% caused by, primarily caused by, or still often enough caused by HPV high risk strains. Transmitted sexually, with or without condom depending on area of skin contact (as with herpes), penetrative and oral, or by kissing, sharing certain items such as wet towels, and so on. Most people are infected in their lives. Most infections pass. Sometimes you die.

Suggested screenings are pap smears for women, and...colonoscopies for men and women who engage or have engaged in anal play.

A friend of mine developed cervical lesions several years after having received oral sex... from only one partner, as her sole sexual activity.

So get checked. Get vaccinated. It's worth it.

And you middle aged people who might have a mysterious mark or pain in your mouth, throat, or jaw... go to the dentist. There is an explosion of oral cancer in people in their 40s and 50s at the moment. It's far easier to treat than regular cancer, very high success rate. As long as you go.
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Katelyn-W

Thanks for the info! I'm gonna ask my GP next time I see her, last time I was there I actually read a pamphlet on HPV  :laugh:
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gothique11

I thought about getting it, but I'm over the age they list. o_0 Also, I've been pretty sexually active... so I'm not sure how that affects anything, 'cause there's so many invisible strains you could have it and not know. And, really, I don't know if there's a test for HPV (invisible kind) except a pap-smear... and I have no idea if those would show the correct results or not.
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Autumn

There's no test without symptoms readily available. I have read clinical studies with oral RNA rinses and bloodwork, but they are not available to the public. The only tests that exist, really, are biopsies/swabbings of tumors/lesions, pap smears, colonoscopies, and visual inspection. I guess a scope down the throat too, and mammogram/physical inspection for the breast cancer. You can't really worry about it, just get tested every year or two or if you experience odd pains. There haven't been any studies, but the last time I talked to a doctor about it (who actually knew something, unlike other doctors I asked... because he says he is ALL THE TIME removing tumors and lesions from people), we both agreed that there's no reason that even kissing shouldn't transmit it.

There isn't a such thing as safe sex, pretty much everyone carries hpv and epstein-barr (another cancer causing virus... it's what triggers mono sometimes. Everybody has antibodies or an infection), and when I discussed testing the last time, I was told that often STD tests don't even bother checking for cold sores because they're so prevalent. I know I was shocked to test positive, considering I can't recall in my life ever having one, and I've been lasered in the mouth area 20 times*, along with hours of electrolysis. (... and I've been lasered in other areas, thank you, with no signs there, either.) Of course, it's better to wind up with a presumably oral infection of HSV-1, makes you more resistant to catching it in more...sensitive areas. Like the nerve bundle that runs nipple to armpit. How much would it suck to have herpes of the breast and armpit? And I believe an hsv1 infection helps offer some protection against hsv2, actual "herpes."

If you have the money to pay out of pocket, get the gardasil. Studies are showing it continues to help... as if that were really ever a question.

There are over 200 strains. Only 4 of them cause cancer and the two gardasil protects against make up the vast, overwhelming majority. Are you probably already exposed? Yeah but whatever I probably am, everyone except the asexual virgins here probably are. Plus it does protect against the 'not fatal except to your sex life' warts.

Most people just really don't have a clue about STDs. AIDS is thought of as the big killer. Only in 3rd world countries. In the USA, it's incredibly treatable. They are even beginning to test pre-dosing high risk people with retrovirals to prevent AIDS infection to begin with. Which would presumably also help against other diseases. Hep C, according to my physician, is a much larger danger and no one gives a ->-bleeped-<- when they should.

With how active my friends are, it's kind of a miracle they're not in worse shape than they - oh wait a lot of them don't get tested. Ugh. Of course, without healthcare, it costs hundreds of dollars to get tested here generally.


*Laser/electrolysis often causes breakouts, valtrex is often prescribed for patients who 'get' outbreaks.
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LordKAT

Interesting information. Thanks for it and giving me a new direction to explore.
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