Who the f@ck are you?! Elite trans

[barbie]

What exactly constitutes 'living in a fantasy world' when you're on-line in the first place?

According to buddhism, we all live in a fantasy world. If you do not think so, then you are under a delusion  .

Barbie~~

[Arch]

Hate to break it to you, but the internet runs on physical, real-world properties - not unicorns and pixie dust.

I thought it was "ether."

[Eva Marie]

Hate to break it to you, but the internet runs on physical, real-world properties - not unicorns and pixie dust.

unicorns can be found in the androgyne forum, along with pixie dust and fruitcake

[MeghanAndrews]

What exactly constitutes 'living in a fantasy world' when you're on-line in the first place?

Lol, true.

[BunnyBee]

unicorns can be found in the androgyne forum, along with pixie dust and fruitcake

Omg, I'm so there !

[Debra]

I can't stand the Elite attitude.

If we all lived by this thought: "Everyone's life/transition is different" then maybe that attitude wouldn't happen

[clairezoey]

we cant shut other people mouth.

and why the heck that she suicide? obviously, she not strong enuf to face the cruel world this days.

world was beautylistic. even among TG there was this problem. the cute and preety TG will not friend with fugly TG. hahahahahhahah, maybe they scare they will not stop laughing !! whahahahahahhahahaha

[mtfbuckeye]

Julia Serano REALLY destroys this notion of stratifying trans people based on their genital configuration in "Whipping Girl." When others "gender" us, they do so almost entirely based upon secondary sexual characteristics. As she says, "really, how many times have you actually seen another person's genitals during your day-to-day life?"

She also makes the point that reducing "womanhood" down to whether or not you have a vagina is also misogynist, because it relies on the assumption that a woman's worth is tied to whether a hetero-normative man would sexually desire her. This view point is also classist, because many trans women may never be able to afford the full-on "bottom surgery," even if they want it.

From my point of view, as someone who is undecided on if I will ever go the full SRS/GRS route, I'm pretty sure that a few years from now, when I look in the mirror and see a pretty girl staring back at me, and (hopefully) the world treats me as such, I'll feel like a woman... even if, to quote Serano, I have a "tiny, estrogenized penis" cowering in my boy shorts.

[clairezoey]

hai mtfbuckeye!!

sorry for my last post!! doesnt mean to offend u!! just said u were handsome!!

sorry moderator!!! im just too excited coz i see many of people here have same feeling as i am!! wanna be girl!!

so , if people mocked u!! be strong!! 1 person mocked! got 100 more praise u!!

[mtfbuckeye]

CZ,
You also said I was fat. And you just made light of a trans woman's suicide. FAIL.

[cynthialee]

clairezoey;
I would sugest that maybe you stop posting and start reading. Your doing a good job of alienating yourself. Look at your reputation.
Learn how we treat eachother with respect.

[kelly_aus]

I can't stand elitism at the best of times.. This is just ridiculous.. We have things hard enough without our 'sisters' bagging us out..

[K8]

Everybody calm down or this thread will be locked, too.

Clairezoey: As Cynthialee said, read the site rules and some of the threads.  This is a friendly, supportive, informative site and the staff here intend to keep it that way.  If you cannot be supportive or add something to the discussion, then don't post.

Please settle down everybody.

And have a nice day.

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- Kate

[clairezoey]

okay, im so sorry...we need to support each other..no matter heart broken u were, dont suicide, life was wonderfull..cheers

[PixieBoy]

There is a foundation in the country I'm from, it's called Benjamin. The people in it have made up some kind of rules for when a non-cis-person is a Proper Transsexual. They mean that, well, if you haven't hated your body ever since childhood, if you are a transwoman who doesn't like makeup and wearing dresses, if you're a transman who likes to wear pink, then you're not a Proper Transsexual. If you're a gay transman or a lesbian transwoman, you're not a Proper TS.
This kind of attitude is really effing stupid, and ruins stuff for a lot of people. People shouldn't exclude others like this, people should try to be warm to one another and help one another, regardless of how they look, what they wear, what gender they are, etc.

[Raven]

That's so sad, I don't how anyone can judge someone on anything. Everyone is unquie and special in their own way and no one is more trans or what have you than anyone is the community. Each person has their own exp and story and most certainly no one is alike sure you can find people whom you have things in common with. I couldn't judge a brother or sister in our community let alone anyone. This just breaks my heart and idk really what to say to this, but I can say this, I hope no one comments suicide again over someone elses judgment no matter the case. And these people who have done or is doin this riduclaus judging will relize how wrong they are in doing this and stop. How dare anyone judge someone over anything. We're suppose to offer each other support and not act like this.
*my apologies for swearing a little*
edit: language

[Arch]

There is a foundation in the country I'm from, it's called Benjamin. The people in it have made up some kind of rules for when a non-cis-person is a Proper Transsexual. They mean that, well, if you haven't hated your body ever since childhood, if you are a transwoman who doesn't like makeup and wearing dresses, if you're a transman who likes to wear pink, then you're not a Proper Transsexual. If you're a gay transman or a lesbian transwoman, you're not a Proper TS.

It's crap like this (in the U.S.) that sent me back into the closet twelve minutes after I came out. Of course, that was back in the eighties.

You're right, it's stupid.

[Kendall]

I like the 12-step notion that we should not "write someone else's inventory." When we do we are avoiding doing our own personal work. It is also arrogant. How can I judge anyone else's life or choices?

I am always sad to hear of someone suiciding. Sad.

I appreciate that for the most part the posts at Susan's are not judgmental and are supportive.

Thank you all.

Kendall

[Cindy]

That's what i told my wife. That's when the light finally came on for her about my situation.

That sounds like good news honey
Hope it stays that way

Hugs

Cindy