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Started by no_id, May 15, 2010, 06:36:55 AM

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Quote from: Pica Pica on May 16, 2010, 05:58:41 PM
I think this invisibility is not such a terrible thing, as long as we realise we are voiceless because of it - would we all want to say something similar if we had a voice anyway?
I think that is an interesting question and my first reply/answer is 'No, unlikely'... At the same time I'm reminded of Nero's topic now 'Why do Androgynes have such a mild temperament' - I suppose you can only fight/rebel when you know what you are fighting for; a thing that seems to be lost in the androgyne dessert where each goes their own way to find some source of water...
If there were any collective answer it would probably be 'We are here', but I'm unsure if that's something worth striding for considering the absolute vagueness of that statement.  ???
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Bombi

Interesting conversation. Perhaps we are a minority but we are also part of the whole, one of the threads that make the cloth.
  I had an interesting encounter this winter. My wife, Geige plays a lot of golf with a group of women. This year a new girl was introduced to the group. Geige shrared her experiences and conversations with me about the woman whose name is Robin. Jill thought she was a "butch lesbian. We finally met a few weeks ago and it was so strange. Geige had told her about me and she told me about Robin. When we met she looked at me with a bit of surprise and so did I. She is either a FtoM or an androgyne or both. We got along just OK. She may have a crush on Jill.
They played more golf and Geige shared that Robin was totally expecting a manly man not a man with an obvious feminine presence. Geige responded that I had a similiar comment about her. I finally decided by sharing our conversations that Robin is an androgyne. I would love to ask her but I know I never will. So for me she is part of the obscure "mini-minority".

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Kinkly

I'm constantly clocked as gay or Trans It is strange feeling to have someone unexpectedly question if you are a boy or girl but I like it a lot more then if I'm asked if I'm gay or bi depending on the situation. asked by taxi driver vs asked by a group of giggling teens I will tell them something to say that what I wear is me not on expression of my sexuality but an expression of my gender also I've given up on using androgyne as a label for me even in "queer" places I say that the most common term for people like me is genderqueer.  I prefer "intergender Androgyne" for myself but any time I've used it I get a WTF or a pls explain.  I'd love to be able to say this is what I am so as to give people an Idea of my struggles If I say "Transgender" they believe Girl in boys body and can accept that but I believe my self to be an Alien and I want to look like one then it would be more accepted then to hear a word they have never heard of.  To be accepted as who I am without supplying a whole stack of paperwork to say that I'm not the only person like this would be great.If there was some publication that I could give to shrinks & family & friends so they would believe that being in the middle is acceptable It would have made life a lot easier and probably would have started positive steps toward being me much sooner rather then thinking I was just too different
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Fenrir

Yeah, people don't know much about ->-bleeped-<- anyway and just assume it is a 'gay' thing, I've found. Every person but one I've told about my gender identity (not very many, but still) has responded with "so... you're a lesbian?" >.< Even the people who immediately clock that something's up with how I act will always go for the "are you a lesbian?" route without gender even crossing their minds! Heck, I reckon that even my mum reckons I'm a lesbian. She keeps saying stuff about supporting lesbianism and all that. I find it quite funny, but I am going to have to explain soon. :P (Rant over, you can look now)
And I also tend to say 'genderqueer' if I'm explaining it to people. I, personally, prefer the term androgyne but if you typed that into a search engine or into YouTube it would be more likely to bring up people who look androgynous, rather than referring to the gender identity. The term 'genderqueer' is just a lot more commonly used online in general, so should they wish to do some research themselves there are a lot more resources there.
And I reckon us androgynes would say more-or-less the same thing in one respect: gender is a spectrum! The world would be so cool if more people understood that...
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