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Started by sneakersjay, June 10, 2010, 07:44:43 PM

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Quote from: kyril on June 18, 2010, 03:55:15 PM
Without breaking the Guy Code by confirming or denying the contents of Jenny's post, I will say it's a very good post :)

...which still says nothing about what men might say to each other about parenting. Sigh.
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cynthialee

If sex with a pretty woman is on the line guys break the man code every time.
The entire point of male compitition and bonding is for access to the females and breeding privlage. Once this is assured all bets are off. It is why alot of men have no real conection outside of the wife and kids.
I have seen it time and time again, everything is going great in a group of dudes then some Yoko Ono shows up and corupts the group or worse the alpha.

(I did spend many many years cultivating a male persona....)
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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tekla

1. In my experience women talk about men and sex when they are together in much more detailed and explicit terms then men EVER do.  The average conversation between two guys about any given women is about two words.  "Nice!"  "Yeah."  That's pretty much about it.

2. A woman will not necessarily break up the boys as fast as a boy breaks up the girls.  Guys share, women do not.

3. Yoko Ono gets a bad rap for breaking up the Beatles.  She didn't.  Ringo and George had already walked out of the White Album sessions on separate occasions (hence Eric Clapton playing on While My Guitar Gently Weeps) and that was over Paul being 'bossy' as they said, "->-bleeped-<-" is the more American term for Paul's behavior then, and continuing to this day.  Paul wanted to make another movie and had even signed papers, the other three did not, hence Let It Be, a third-rate 'documentary' that fulfilled the contract so Paul didn't get sued to hell and back, but it's obvious to watch it that none of them cared by that point.  John by that point wanted out, he was getting death threats on a constant basis, and as he said numerous times he had other things he wanted to do that the rest did not (and that went for all three of them, George in particular) and it wasn't possible to like make more money from the Beatles as they had all made more then they could ever spend as it was.  It was really Paul who when he sued the other three to get total control of the group and it's finances that ended it.

So it wasn't some broad (and Linda was much more disliked than Yoko by the others), it was, as it always is in business, money - and not just the money, really the CONTROL of the money.
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kyril

What Tekla said.

It's true, if it's any consolation: only gay men talk explicitly about sex. Straight guys don't come even close to the level of detail that women do, and the vast majority of what they do say is lies and macho posturing about past encounters. 99% of the stuff guys don't want you to know has nothing whatsoever to do with you or any other woman who exists outside of their heads.

On parenting specifically, it's nothing special, usually falls into one of two categories: (a) squeamishness about the birth process and related stuff, or (b) stories about ridiculous and idiotic things the dads did while taking care of their kids and the hilarious ways they found to hide the damage from their wives (or the hilarious ways their wives reacted when they found out). It's harmless stuff, but you do not want to know the specifics. Understand that things said between guys over beer are almost exclusively said in joke format and embellished heavily for entertainment value - this including descriptions of their wives.


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K8

What Tekla and Kyril said.

And now that I no longer have to pretend to be a guy, I can tell you that a big part of the guy code is not telling the women.  That aspect is often more important than anything that gets said, maybe because the women might ridicule them and that would not be good.  (Do not - I repeat: do not - ridicule your guys, girls.)  It's a circling of the wagons kind of thing.  I've got your back, man.

- Kate
Life is a pilgrimage.
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rejennyrated

Quote from: K8 on June 21, 2010, 07:44:52 AM
What Tekla and Kyril said.

And now that I no longer have to pretend to be a guy, I can tell you that a big part of the guy code is not telling the women.  That aspect is often more important than anything that gets said, maybe because the women might ridicule them and that would not be good.  (Do not - I repeat: do not - ridicule your guys, girls.)  It's a circling of the wagons kind of thing.  I've got your back, man.

- Kate
Great! - so as a member of both groups, when I'm at the other group I can't tell myself then :P  :laugh:

It's all good fun!

Oh - and for those who correctly pointed out that I didn't include much about parenting that's because I've never been in the "Dads" club. Alison has, long before we met, but now she won't tell me! ;) Postop I have fostered, but that only got me an associate membership of the Mums club... so I really don't know what men say about parenting. :D
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sneakersjay

It was only exciting because for the first time in my life I was one of the boys.  I don't need to break the guy code to let you know what went on.  If anyone here was/is married with kids, you already know.  It was funny because it was exactly what I expected my ex-h was doing with the guys, and I was right.

OTOH most of the parenting things I could relate to, but most of them were parents of kids under 7.  Mine are far older than that.  I'm so glad to be past the diapers and bedtime thingy.


Jay


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Quote from: K8 on June 21, 2010, 07:44:52 AM(Do not - I repeat: do not - ridicule your guys, girls.) 

Don't even say anything that only the whiniest, most sensitive, apron-string-entangled third-grade crybaby would construe as ridicule...::)
"The hammer is my penis." --Captain Hammer

"When all you have is a hammer . . ." --Anonymous carpenter
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tekla

guy code is not telling the women

What happens backstage, stays backstage!
    Sign in my office, left to me and my minions by my predecessor, circa 1999

What happens on tour, stays on tour, there's a reason we don't bring the wives/GF
    My first tour manager on my first tour, circa 1973

What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas
    The Rat Pack, the originals, and still the best.  Circa, the late 1950s

And somewhere on some parchment I'm sure are the words - in Latin no doubt - what happens on the Crusade, stays on the Crusade

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pretty pauline

Quote from: kyril on June 20, 2010, 09:38:01 PM
Understand that things said between guys over beer are almost exclusively said in joke format and embellished heavily for entertainment value - this including descriptions of their wives.
Descriptions of their Wives, eekkk probably discussing butts, boobs and legs and heavens knows what else, ugh you where right the first time Kyril, I really don't want to know the gritty details, whats being said about me and the other Wives, thankfully its mostly just silly stupid macho fun.
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tekla

I've never, not tour, not in the shop, or construction site, or faculity club been anywhere were anyone talking much of anything about wives - theirs or others - was tollerated.  They are, like daughters, off the table. 
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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kyril

Yeah, I think you got the wrong idea about "descriptions of their wives." Bodies and body parts and sexual activity are off the table. Funny stories, however, are not.


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pretty pauline

Quote from: kyril on June 22, 2010, 12:32:32 AM
Yeah, I think you got the wrong idea about "descriptions of their wives." Bodies and body parts and sexual activity are off the table. Funny stories, however, are not.
I miss understood Kyril, got my knickers in a twist, I understand, thank you.
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