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More Democratic Betrayal of LGBT Americans

Started by Shana A, June 13, 2010, 01:15:23 PM

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Shana A

More Democratic Betrayal of LGBT Americans
Filed by: Michael Hamar
June 12, 2010 4:00 PM

http://www.bilerico.com/2010/06/more_democrat_betrayal_of_lgbt_americans.php

Nancy Pelosi has announced that there will be no movement on efforts to pass ENDA until the Senate acts of the so-called "repeal" of DADT. Which, given the fact that there's no guarantee of when the Senate will take up DADT much less pass it, means that there's no guarantee that ENDA will see movement this year.

Meanwhile, the Uncle Tom-like suck-ups at HRC and other alleged LGBT rights organizations continue to act as if they were paid cheerleaders for the Obama administration. It's a sad state of affairs and - at least for me - extremely demoralizing.

Personally, I am using the November elections as my cut-off mark. Either the Senate has passed DADT repeal - which isn't even really repeal - and ENDA has been enacted, or all bets are off in terms of me voting for Democrats in November. The boyfriend is pretty much of the same mind and equally disgusted.
"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken." Oscar Wilde


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justmeinoz

Maybe it's time for a new political party over there. 

Perhaps the slaves who escaped to the British during the War of Independence, and changed their names to ones like "British Freedom" had the right idea after all?  It really is disheartening hearing about things in the US at times.
"Don't ask me, it was on fire when I lay down on it"
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Kaelin

I don't think the founding fathers intended for our government to be dominated by two political parties.  I attribute it to a lack of foresight of what really took generations to emerge and crystallize.

On some level the "Tea Party" sort of wants a change as well, but they've lacked the discipline to develop and articulate a vision beyond rage.  Short of managing a hostile take-over of the Republican party (which they can manage in a handful of races, but "success" requires they do so across the board), they can't accomplish a terrible amount besides mobilize an anti-Democratic base to maybe vote Republican (and then get let down a lot more than they bargained for).

As for Democrats and DADT, DADT relates to an anti-gay government policy.  I think this point has been articulated elsewhere, but it is probably necessary for the government to end anti-gay treatment before the government expects private entities to end anti-gay treatment.  Furthermore, ending DADT has a lot of popular appeal, so getting DADT repealed should not require the Democrats to spend lots of political capital -- they should be bludgeoning the Republicans for (1) opposing the will of the people and (2) infering with the military's ability to run at optimal levels (this requires that all able and willing soldiers be available to serve -- and given that DADT isn't to be repealed as much as the decision is being deferred to the Pentagon, a body ostensibly suited to the purpose of deciding what gives optimal results will be the one making the decision).  However, I don't think the struggles on these issues are just attributable to "pressure" -- for whatever reason, the Democrats and Republicans representing voters are more anti-gay on military service than the voters themselves.

Getting additional influential political parties is probably contingent on changing our Constitution in a way that allows such parties to be viable.  If we turned the Senate into a proportional body rather than one that disproportionately represents the individual states, we'd give such parties a voice (and what better body to do it to than the one that currently gives veto power to both major parties).  Changing the Presidential election to a popular vote and implementing run-offs for the House and Presidency would give the alternate parties additional openings, but the Senate is the place where they can steadily gain influence before toppling major parties in regional House elections and then finally contend for the Presidency.  However, the power to commit to this sort of change is held by the very people we want to hold accountable.
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LordKAT

I'm mixed on DADT. gay people can serve as long as they don't act openly. Remove it and that gives grounds for dismissal and permission to ask instead of grounds for dismissal but we aren't asking.


I always took that law that way. Yet it is perceived as stopping gay people from serving. If you want equality you would have to replace that law with an equal opportunity law or you haven't really gained anything.
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Kaelin

I suppose that sort of speaks to the point of... what does it get replaced with?  If it's removed as being against the military code or whatnot, that's what I/we want.  If there won't be such a policy, then obviously that's going to be worse... although if they are subject to ENDA, that'd work.  Except, you know, ENDA wouldn't have already been in place yet, since ENDA is supposed to come second rather than first.

How annoying. >_<
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rejennyrated

Forgive me for commenting here but as an external observer to the US I would say that the only problem with witholding votes from the Democrats over slow progress on DADT and ENDA is that whilst progress may be slow there is at least some. If you all did what the article seems to advocate and witheld in protest you will get nothing because I can't honestly see your Republicans ever passing anything like that as they mostly seem to hate the weak and the minorities in your society with a passion!

Basically seen from european eyes America often seems to have the choice constricted to one between "right wing" and "ultra right wing" politics because for some reason that the rest of the world can't even begin to fathom most of you seem petrified of anything resembling socialism.

Very odd for a nation founded on such lofty and truly socialist principles. It's almost as if the in the era since Mcarthy the nation has almost permanently forgotten it's roots.
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LordKAT

QuoteIt's almost as if the in the era since Mcarthy the nation has almost permanently forgotten it's roots.

McCarthy is part of the reason Americans fear socialist type programs.
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tekla

It's almost as if the in the era since Mcarthy the nation has almost permanently forgotten intentionally ignored it's roots.

FIFY

And you can see the results every day, even in here.
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