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Not sure if this is a step forward or back.

Started by MalcolmAllen, June 19, 2010, 04:48:26 PM

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tekla

Yeah I'm still reading it.  So try this little experiment.  Find out how many beds are available in your area for women.  Abused women, down on their luck women, women in recovery, ect. ect. ect.  Now find out how many are for men.  A lot less.  A huge amount less.  Guys are expected to make it, or at least fake it, there is almost a total lack of support for guys who aren't making it.  There are not as many shelters, there is however a lot of boxes, and if you take them apart, you can lay on the cardboard and not the concrete when you're sleeping in the doorway.  Go ahead, walk around the crappy part of any city - or given the times we're in, some of the better parts of the city - and see who's doing the urban camping deal.  99% guys.

So, given that, it seems to me that there is a lot less help for men who aren't making it on their own.  Oh you'll get plenty of "That's too bad."  But you can't eat that, or pay rent with it.  And I'm not even in the harsh competition, the world is much worse than I ever can be.

It's funny how many of the guys in here beg, plead and demand to be treated like a guy, until it happens.  That is exactly what I'd say to any guy I know, what my dad told me, what I told my boys growing up, what other guys would have told me had I given them that same story.  Get a job, if you have one and it's not enough, get another one.  Hell, get a third one, I know people who have several jobs, times are like that.  And better get used to it, it don't look like things are going to change soon either.

And the people who already have a job are much more likey to get a second one over someone who does not have one.  Why hire the untested?

And that's not mean, or nasty, it's just being realistic.  Don't run around telling everyone you're a guy and expect to be mollycoddled.  Ain't going to happen, and while you're busy trying to figure out who owes you what, some other guy was doing the hustle and flow and getting the job you needed.

It's a very guy deal - part of why I thnk so many guys like sports - is that SOMEONE HAS TO LOSE.  Don't be that guy.  After all, a good loser, is still a loser.
FIGHT APATHY!, or don't...
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kyril

"Life sucks and people are ->-bleeped-<-s" may be true, but it's not an excuse to deliberately make it suck more by being an ->-bleeped-<-. Especially not in an environment that's supposed to be supportive.

Also, I don't know your trans status so I'm not sure how intimately aware you are of this, but trans guys who aren't on T are physically, for all intents an purposes when dealing with the outside world, female. We have the strength of a woman and the anatomy of a woman, which makes the cardboard box strategy a significantly less viable option (I spent a couple months as a street kid, it's not pretty, and I ran with a group.)

Those of us with some awareness of the statistics on LGBT street kids and with more than a couple brain cells to rub together (I'm not sure which of those conditions I failed to meet, maybe both) find that sucking it up and doing what our parents want long enough to get into a stable self-supporting situation is a far superior option.


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