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Started by CrazyTina, July 06, 2010, 04:52:56 PM

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CrazyTina

Okay. So... As you may or may not know... see
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,79717.0.html I was kicked
out of my house.

But. I have come to realize how dependent I am on my family. Not in an
emotional way, but in a physical way. So I am going to comply with their
demands, and I am going to be a boy until September when a woman in
California has agreed to let me live with her at her new apartment.

So here is the plan. I am going to give my pretty studs to the girl that
pierced my ears and then I am going to give all my clothes and makeup to
my girlfriend. And I am going home.

The girl that pierced my ears has agreed to re pierce them before I
leave in September.  I will get all my clothes from my gf, whom I will
have a long distance relationship with until she is done with school and
can come down and live with me.

So I shall keep you informed in this thread.
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Samantha_Peterson

I really hope this works out for you and I wish you the best of luck with dealing with your family.
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Nigella

I feel for you, but life will get better but you have to do what you have to do at the time. I was thrown out of my home, well I was given an ultimatum really. So I left with everything packed in my car and drove away.

I now have a new home, new job, new friends and a lovely new area to live. Life at the moment is soooooooooooo much better and I have virtually transitioned. Just one more step next week, lol.

BIG HUG :icon_hug:

Stardust
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CrazyTina

That is great stardust! I wish it was that easy. But I am so dependent, I don't even own my car. Its my parents car, so I have to bring it back before they report it as being stolen!

I am soooo worried as to what they are going to do when I come back... I hope they don't hurt me. My dad is a tool. He is seriously the meanest person in the world. But I LOVE love love my Mom and my Brother. Especially my brother, and I couldn't stand not seeing him again.

So for now I will pretend to be someone that I am not. But I will need to start thinking of moving now. And get the stuff that I need. etc, etc.
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Laura Emily

Wow what a tough situation to be in. I feel for you Christina. Just be persistent, though, and you will come out on top in the end.
Those who live life to please others, rather than live the life they please, live only to exist.  - LEV
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cynthialee

I am so sorry that you have to abuse your self in such a fashion to please your family. I understand the need. You have my best wishes for a good outcome to your troubles.
So it is said that if you know your enemies and know yourself, you can win a hundred battles without a single loss.
If you only know yourself, but not your opponent, you may win or may lose.
If you know neither yourself nor your enemy, you will always endanger yourself.
Sun Tsu 'The art of War'
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Nigella

Quote from: Christina. on July 06, 2010, 05:06:10 PM
That is great stardust! I wish it was that easy.

I know it sounded easy but believe me it was really bad, it took me over one/two years to get straight financially, physiologically, emotionally, etc. It was the worst time of my life and the darkest pit at times I almost didn't make it. Many times I thought of suicide, but the new friends I had made helped me through. I'm now glad I'm still here to tell the tail.

Stardust 
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Janet_Girl

A) I am glad you are ok.  I was worried.
B) Sorry you have to suffer the indignity of living as someone you are not just to please other.
C) I might suggest putting in the studs at night, but remember to remove them before they have a chance to see.  Just a thought.
D) September is not that far off.  Hang in there and remember you still have us.

I wish I could do more to help, but you are in my thoughts, Dear Sister.
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spacial

Somone once said to me, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Sometimes we need to swallow our pride. Survival is an imperitive.

I really do understand your decision and sympathise. But I don't think you are betraying yourself, you are taking a step back so you can walk forward.

In your situation I would feel little compunction to say whatever will keep the peace.

Good luck and stay safe.
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CrazyTina

@Stardust: I am glad you are okay now! ^^;; I was thinking of suicide too today. But the girl I am staying with talked me out of it by helping me plan what I was going to do to be able to live how I want in the future. And that talked me out of it, so I told her that she helped me not want to kill myself, and then she did the classic "you have so much to live for" crap >_< which doesn't keep anyone from wanting to deadzies themself. But she helped me none the less and I am so grateful, she helped me come up with this plan, it was not my own.
Quote from: Janet Lynn on July 06, 2010, 05:35:30 PM
A) I am glad you are ok.  I was worried.
B) Sorry you have to suffer the indignity of living as someone you are not just to please other.
C) I might suggest putting in the studs at night, but remember to remove them before they have a chance to see.  Just a thought.
D) September is not that far off.  Hang in there and remember you still have us..
:) Thank you for being here for me!

My parents will know I am doing that if they ever catch me or see they are not closing up, and if they do, I am all kinds of screwed, since they will know I didn't "give it all up"

Anyways, the girl that I am staying with, who said we were friends today :D :D (I have like 3 friends total :P), said that she would re-pierce them, and even do doubles for me :D :D she pierced them in the first place, so I trust her completely, she has... *counts her ear since she is sitting next to her* 9 piercings in each ear.
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Laura Emily

I am glad to hear that someone cares enough about you to help you cope with a very unbearable situation and that you are ok. It might be tough now but it will get better soon. Just hang tight. -hugs-
Those who live life to please others, rather than live the life they please, live only to exist.  - LEV
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Nigella

Quote from: Christina. on July 06, 2010, 05:47:51 PM
@Stardust: I am glad you are okay now! ^^;; I was thinking of suicide too today. But the girl I am staying with talked me out of it by helping me plan what I was going to do to be able to live how I want in the future. And that talked me out of it, so I told her that she helped me not want to kill myself, and then she did the classic "you have so much to live for" crap >_< which doesn't keep anyone from wanting to deadzies themself. But she helped me none the less and I am so grateful, she helped me come up with this plan, it was not my own. :) Thank you for being here for me!

My parents will know I am doing that if they ever catch me or see they are not closing up, and if they do, I am all kinds of screwed, since they will know I didn't "give it all up"

Anyways, the girl that I am staying with, who said we were friends today :D :D (I have like 3 friends total :P), said that she would re-pierce them, and even do doubles for me :D :D she pierced them in the first place, so I trust her completely, she has... *counts her ear since she is sitting next to her* 9 piercings in each ear.

I'm glad you have the same kind of friends that I have that care about you for who you are. They are like a treasure that is beyond price. I would not be here if it wasn't for my friends too.

I understand how you feel about your pierced ears but in the scheme of things its just a little blip.

And the saying, "you have so much to live for," is true even though you may not see that now as I didn't. I am so glad that I am here to understand that saying because I do have so much to live for now. My life is so full It's unbelievable. September is not far away and will soon be here. For now do what you have to do for life is worth living, believe me I know.

Stardust   
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glendagladwitch

I don't see this going well at all.  Once you give them this inch, they will take a mile.  Next thing you know, they'll demand you take supplemental testosterone injections, attend some religious "pray the gay away" boot camp for a proper brainwashing, and join the army.  Good luck making it until September.
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Elijah3291

i thought I would put a few words in about dealing with this for the little bit that you will have to pretend to be a boy.

when you are in boys clothes.. try to just think of them of tomboy clothes.. plenty of girls wear baggy jeans and T shirts.. so.. just try to think of it that way. and Im sure you will still look cute even in boy clothes.

hope this helps some.
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Epigania

Quote from: Elijah on July 06, 2010, 09:38:21 PM

when you are in boys clothes.. try to just think of them of tomboy clothes.. plenty of girls wear baggy jeans and T shirts.. so.. just try to think of it that way. and Im sure you will still look cute even in boy clothes.

You know ... thinking back, I did this.   Huh, never realized that.


Christina, I'm truely sorry that you've had this experience.   Growing up, I've seen this in a lot of situations.   Sometimes parents concider themselves the absolute authority in their children's lives.   And it appears you are feeling this sort of backlash.

A few others mentioned it in a roundabout way, but this seems to be a power play from your family to put control over your life.  I've never seen these types of relationships turn out well, I'm afraid. 

I'm assuming your 18 or close to it, so I highly advise you to start organizing your life and find your way out of that situation.  Do what you have to do to survive, but start coming up with a plan where you can take care of yourself and pursue it.  Take this experience as a lesson what you'll need to do to take care of yourself when you leave the nest.

You mentioned that someone was going to let you move in with them in September.   The pessimist in me is saying that you shouldn't depend on that as your "out".  People's lives change all the time.  You, unfortunately, just experienced that "joy" of life.   And September is a world away.   I'd recommend getting yourself a job somewhere and starting to save up.   Give yourself an emergency fund to work with if things go south with your roommate plan.

Britney♥Bieber

I'm so glad you have a place to go to in september bb. I'm so sorry that your transition has to be put on hold though. I kinda fear that my parents will be the same way. I mean I know they won't kick me out because my older sister said she'd leave and my younger sister said that she would stop talking to them. So if they kick me out they lose all of their daughters, not just me. Also, my oldest sister has done a lot that they are unhappy with but they just let it slide, because they don't want her to leave their lives again, long story. But hopefully they accept love and help me. Your courage really means a lot to me. I'll be thinking of all of you loving people when the time to tell my family comes. I have a place to go if I need it though, my bestie said I could live with her. My aunt would probably help me as well.

BunnyBee

Sounds like you have a great friend.  I think your plan is good and I really don't see your parents demanding anything else of you if you lay low for these last few months.

In the meantime you know who you are (be glad for the clarity at your young age) and you do have a roadmap to your authentic life.  I am sure it will be torture, but don't let this purgatory get you down.  We all wish we could snap our fingers and instantly be the right gender, but it doesn't work that way... for any of us.
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Britney_413

That is a real shame your parents are acting that way. I truly wish you the best. My best advice is to keep a level head. Know what you want and focus on the strategy even if you don't see any immediate results. I've always been critical of the family unit in general in our society because so many parents and relatives (regardless of family) are selfish and ignorant. The selfish ones pretend to know and do what is best for their kids but ultimately think about what is best for themselves meaning how the kid(s) help them with their image, future, finances, etc. As to the ignorant part, many parents truly do seem to want to do what is best for their kids yet at the same time willfully refuse to learn anything new or change with the times.

My other advice is to do your best to become financially independent. It is hard in the current economy but it is essential. You recently posted about how you overdrafted your checking account and then later mentioned you were already out of money after buying makeup, clothes, and other stuff. The key here is to prioritize. None of those products are doing you any good now that you are having to give them away (temporarily). Most banks are charging anywhere from $25-$40 per item overdrafted which is a serious waste of money. If you can, try even working a second job or pick up hours at your current job. That may even "fool" your parents into thinking you are on the right track in their mind.

I'm not as financially independent as I would like as I screwed up some credit cards (well actually they did by hiking the rates) and occasionally have to borrow money and grab leftover food from my family. If transitioning is important to you (and me and all of us) we have to set goals and stick to them. It sounds like this friend that is inviting you to stay in September is a big help but it may only be one step in the right direction. Most friends will eventually want you to pay part of the rent and other expenses for continued tenancy. Plus, while they will be much more supportive of your transition than your parents, you still will have someone to answer to for other things.

This is why I stress financial independence so critically. I don't like people telling me what to do. Each time a parent, friend, or other person has financial control over you, you will be delayed in whatever goals you are accomplishing. It takes time but do your best. My goal ultimately is to own a home and have zero debt liability. That will take many years. I would strongly recommend for you though to get out of your parents' house as quickly as possible. Transitioning requires at least the most basic support--where you live and where you work. Try to save as much as you can so you can eventually get a place of your own. Any money that you may have spent impulsively on things you don't really need can be saved for a deposit on an apartment.

Worst case scenario, if you can't wait until September there may be group homes or shelters available if you live in a big enough city some of which cater towards GLBT people. Whatever you do, though, keep a level head with a clear goal and strategy in mind, and I wish you the best.
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CrazyTina

Quote from: Epigania on July 06, 2010, 10:13:24 PM
I'm assuming your 18 or close to it,
21 Actually :)
Quote from: Epigania on July 06, 2010, 10:13:24 PM
I'd recommend getting yourself a job somewhere and starting to save up.
Yep I am a carpenter for a live action theatre. I build and paint sets. I also do lighting for the plays, hand and focus lights, etc.

No new developments at this point. sooooooo. Off to work now.

Post Merge: July 07, 2010, 07:37:42 AM

Thank you everyone for your responses! They were are quite helpful.

@Britney_413

I am working on the financial, when I am with my parents, they supported me enough that I would never have needed to spend a single penny of my own.

Right now I have $1400 but I owe a few people some money, so I have about $1300. I make around $650 a month. Which isn't a whole lot... so I might need to pick up another job.

I am going to a local community college, and right now... I am kind of not doing anything for my classes, I am pretty sure if I don't drop one of them I am so totally screwed its not even funny. My other one, the one required to keep my student aid position in the theatre, I can still get an A probably, just need to get my rear in gear >_<

Problem is, I have already signed up and paid for classes next semester. So I am worried that when I leave in september classes won't be over and I waste all that money! So how do I make my parents understand that I am dropping the classes!

Okay. I still have work to do before september, oh and I am sure that the person I am staying with is quite understanding of transitioning as she did herself.
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pamshaw

You are a very brave woman. You are doing the right thing being honest about your GID and not living a lie like I did for so many years. Unfortunately many people can not handle the truth. Soon you will be able to get away from your parents and proceed with your transition as your GID will not go away. You are a beautiful young woman and are transitioning early in life so you will be able to live most of your life as the woman you are. Times are tough now but they will get better.

Paam
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